Kareonke acquires 29.9% of Arsenal stock

The board consistently come out and say money is there if Wenger wants to spend it but he doesn't splash the cash massively..

I don't necessarily think that would change even if Kroenke made millions available.
 
Even if he does intend to take over the club, it won't be for at least 6 months, as the takeover rules state that you have to offer the highest price that has been achieved for a share in the last 6 months before the takeover. Some of his recent shares were bought at ridiculous prices (£10,500). Also it's not this man's style to load a club with debt.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...roenke-slowly-gains-support-for-takeover.html

Keep the faith gooners!
 
bloodline76 said:
Just ignore him he loves his little attacks on everyone. Its quite cute really how he gets it so wrong all the time yet still sticks to his beliefs ;)
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What was the last thing I got wrong exactly? Was it when I was the only one saying Liverpool were most in danger of dropping out of the big 4, or was it for the past 3 years when I've been saying we've had one of the best and deepest squads in the league in all but centre backs and we really should have been competing. Or let me guess, Diaby getting a simple goal created by Arshavin and Eduardo means Diaby is great and I was wrong? Or where I said Song never costs us against crap teams, but every big game we still lose for the same reasons.

CliffyG said:
drunkenmaster as much as i value your insights into high finance (about as much as i do your opinions on Arsenal) i'll stick by my opinion that i dont think he'll be attempting the takeover any time soon. He may not ever do it. He may just be buying as many as possible to maximise profits for when the russian makes a takeover attempt or any number of reasons that you or i dont know. If he does do it soon then we can just chalk it up as one of the few times you said something right ;).
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Thats not what you said though, you specifically said he'd wait a couple years for the economy to stablise, that will simply mean a massively higher price for the shares he buys if he waits two years. I didn't comment saying he WOULD take over asap, I said if he was going to do it, waiting 2 years when it will cost him infinately more would be entirely stupid, which it would be. He might well be looking to maximise profits, but then again of the people who could run a take over, I know which man I see most frequently in the UK and going to games, who appears to thoroughly enjoy sport in general and football and loves Arsenal. He doesn't in any way strike me as a man investing in ARsenal just to turn a buck, most people who do so don't go to the games and support the team. Still doesn't change the fact you suggested he's more likely to wait to takeover the club when it could cost literally, hundreds of millions more.

jakeke said:
I hope he does ruin the club just so Eboue can rise from the ashes and save the day
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Weebull said:
If he's evil it's probably Alex Song's fault.
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[ASSE]Hinchy;15253699 said:
I've heard Diaby is his favourite player and would be made the highest paid player at the club if he completes the takeover..
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Wow, those last three quotes, much like multiple other posts on the forum are simply intended to wind me up, its funny, I've never once posted something specifically to wind a single person up(Teki and matteman simply don't count, lizardmen believers truly deserve it, even then its rare). Yet frequently you all think its truly lovely behaviour to only have the intent to wind me up. Oh well.

Gooner14 said:
Who has hurled insults at him? no one on here that I can see.
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If you can quote the part where I said people were hurling insults in this thread? no? really?

The general feel amongst other fans is billionaire owners will come in, spend 300million a season and get them a title, when that doesn't happen, certain fans seem to go mental at their rich owners because they won't spend every last penny they have on the club. Theres also a hint of uncertainty about what a takeover would mean, raping the club for every last penny or pumping millions in, or staying exactly where they are now. It was pretty simple I was saying give him a chance and don't over react like certain other teams fans have.
 
It's a joke, take it like a man! Imagine if Diaby or Song read one of your posts, you've definitely said PLENTY to wind them up, just because they don't read it though it's ok right?
 
HazardO said:
Even if he does intend to take over the club, it won't be for at least 6 months, as the takeover rules state that you have to offer the highest price that has been achieved for a share in the last 6 months before the takeover. Some of his recent shares were bought at ridiculous prices (£10,500). Also it's not this man's style to load a club with debt.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...roenke-slowly-gains-support-for-takeover.html

Keep the faith gooners!
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Other than the fact the price is £9,500 already, which isn't a massive difference, and its rising meaning it could be worth well more than £10,500 by may.

But come May rather than a still not quite serious contender team we have now, where people still have us as outsiders. Come May we could be title holders, we could be double holders or have the treble for all we know. All of which would vastly pump up the share value.

If Arsenal did win anything this year there price will go up, profits will increase and future profit outlooks increase meaning price to buy all increases. The stock price is likely to continue to rise as debt is paid off and the company makes more profit and has a higher turnover every year, that stock price will only get higher if we win things aswell.

Waiting for May isn't at all certain because he might end up paying much much more than that extra £1k per share by waiting. Thats excluding the fact that its far from certain stocks will be lower than 10.5k in May anyway.
 
jakeke said:
It's a joke, take it like a man! Imagine if Diaby or Song read one of your posts, you've definitely said PLENTY to wind them up, just because they don't read it though it's ok right?
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IS that a joke? If I KNEW THEY WOULD READ IT, it would be intentionally winding them up, I'm under the fairly safe assumption they aren't on these forums, therefore it would be unintentional. However, you guys KNOW i read the responses, your responses are writen purely for the purpose of winding me up and you wouldn't write them if you thought I wouldn't see them.

Considering you, and MANY other arsenal fans on this forum aswell as lots of non arsenal fans have all critised Diaby and Song that makes your point completely worthless anyway.

This is ignoring the fact despite saying NOTHING about ANYONE in this thread, someone decided to say I like my little attacks on other people, even though again I said nothing about anyone in here, but had what at least 3 posts purely posted to wind me up.

Take it like a man? How did I not, I mentioned it, considering someone was commenting on the way I post and my behaviour, I posted on others, get over yourself. I was merely pointing out who was behaving like crap in this thread.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
You mean, an incredibly smart business man keeps buying shares up to the auto takeover point, but he'll wait two years till the club's value will drastically decrease, their stadium debt is far smaller and it will cost him 2-3 times the amount to take over the club.

Yeah, thats how most businessmen get to be billionaires, wait till everything they buy is way more expensive and strong, then buy.

I also find it funny that the automatic assumption is one billionaire can't be better than another one, because every billionaire is pure evil and can only ruin every business they get into.


How about, before we all jump all over our new overlord before he's uttered a single word on the subject, we don't decide he's evil, we don't assume he's out to kill the club just because he's american, we don't automatically join forces to support the manager and hurl insults at the guy who will likely own the club in the future.

Maybe support him, untill and IF he does something bad for the club?

We could also not all get lost in over expectations and not actually get angry because a billionaire won't just spend hundreds of millions making us win everything like certain other clubs fans do. If he spends, he spends, if he doesn't, he doesn't, such is life.
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I assume you are not familiar with stock market rules. At the moment he is paying a premium for the shares, if he triggered the takeover amount now he has to buy all the remaining shares at the highest price he bought them in the last 12 months.

It makes sense for him to wait until he can offer a lower price for the shares, so yes, I think he will wait to takeover the club.

Also, calm down, don't be so aggressive with everyone here :p
 
In my opinion if he wants to buy then that's fine, if he doesn't then that's fine too. It's not as if we are in dire need of new owners, things are going great for us financially and we are definitely better off than Liverpool and Manchester United in regards to finances. We don't need millions upon millions of pounds to spend on players because we've got a smart manager who doesn't often get it wrong with his youth policy. He always seems to sell at the right time, and he almost always buys absolute quality for the right price. Look at Vermaelen, easily as good as any CB in the league and we had him for a good price. The same with players that he has brought to us before. I think Arshavin is our record signing and don't quote me on the figure but I believe it was around 12-13 million. That's pennies compared to Liverpool and Man Utd's recent purchases from the past couple of years.

If he buys us out then I'm sure that he'll be a responsible owner, if you look at his teams in the U.S they are hardly wracked with debt, and hardly the laughing stock of their respective leagues.
 
drunkenmaster said:
IS that a joke? If I KNEW THEY WOULD READ IT, it would be intentionally winding them up, I'm under the fairly safe assumption they aren't on these forums, therefore it would be unintentional. However, you guys KNOW i read the responses, your responses are writen purely for the purpose of winding me up and you wouldn't write them if you thought I wouldn't see them.

Considering you, and MANY other arsenal fans on this forum aswell as lots of non arsenal fans have all critised Diaby and Song that makes your point completely worthless anyway.

This is ignoring the fact despite saying NOTHING about ANYONE in this thread, someone decided to say I like my little attacks on other people, even though again I said nothing about anyone in here, but had what at least 3 posts purely posted to wind me up.

Take it like a man? How did I not, I mentioned it, considering someone was commenting on the way I post and my behaviour, I posted on others, get over yourself. I was merely pointing out who was behaving like crap in this thread.
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Fair enough, I have no intention of ever arguing with you. But you should know that almost every single one of your posts winds up a lot of people here. In fact, I have no idea how you wouldn't know that

The other Arsenal fans criticise Diaby/Song/Cesc/Arshavin when they do things wrong and praise them when they do things right. You are on a 1 man campaign to destroy them every single time you post. You don't recognise when they do good, you just criticise, criticise, criticise. It's boring
 
jakeke said:
Fair enough, I have no intention of ever arguing with you. But you should know that almost every single one of your posts winds up a lot of people here. In fact, I have no idea how you wouldn't know that

The other Arsenal fans criticise Diaby/Song/Cesc/Arshavin when they do things wrong and praise them when they do things right. You are on a 1 man campaign to destroy them every single time you post. You don't recognise when they do good, you just criticise, criticise, criticise. It's boring
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I'll go with that.
 
DM, not trying to jump on the bandwagon here but you do go on over the most mundane things. I've actually given up reading your posts in the Sports Arean for that exact reason.

As for the 'takeover', I'll reserve judgement. There is no possible way we can tell what kind of owner this chap will be, but it's always best to give the benefit of the doubt if it's applicable and as such I'm going to do so. :)

No alarms bells are going as of yet, so as I said: I'm content to sit back and watch for now.
 
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