BT BROADBAND SERIOUSLY WTH?!?!
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Then they should (and other xDSL providers) sell it as a broadband connection without a speed attached like BT Home Broadband if they cannot give at least a close approximation. Up to 20mb implies to the layman that it will be at least close to 20mb and 6mb is not even close.
It is deliberately misleading to the average consumer.
Almost as bad as the "Unlimited" Broadband connections that have caps. That's not unlimited is it?
The Broadband industry over here is in a right mess.
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Where did you get that whacky idea from? BT (in all its forms) are a pile of horse****!
Did he get 15meg because he went from ADSL to ADSL2?
Also it irritates me when the standard response from some people (not you necessarily) is to say 'move to Be' - not all of us can get Be at our exchange.
This is all I can get and there is no other (faster) option for me. (edit - to be exact, I do have the option of the office packages which give double the upload, but I can't get a faster download than that.)
Although for web browsing, games, streaming (except HD) this connection is all you need, where line quality and latency are more relevant factors than overall bandwidth.
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I'm sure you'd survive...
Not so long ago when I was with ntl cable (2004), their top package was 1.5Mb IIRC and most people were on 300k or 600k.
For me it's not about how much I download per day - it's how long it takes me to download the game I just bought on steam - anything over 30 seconds is annoying
I guess I'm almost the perfect XL broadband customer - thwacks the connection for half an hour then it's off the rest of the day
Most sites are all interactive with flash menus and videos and rich graphics. Most dial up connections wouldn't be able to brows the internet anymore. 
Same, only it's movies from iTunes or TV from iPlayer for me. Download at 100mbps and it's there in a few seconds.
For me it's not about how much I download per day - it's how long it takes me to download the game I just bought on steam - anything over 30 seconds is annoying
I guess I'm almost the perfect XL broadband customer - thwacks the connection for half an hour then it's off the rest of the day
Same, only it's movies from iTunes or TV from iPlayer for me. Download at 100mbps and it's there in a few seconds.
I'm stuck with BT at the moment, because my exchange hasn't been upgraded to allow for LLU providers yet. Max 8Mb, I'm so close to the exchange I could urinate on it from my front door but BT keep resetting my line to 2.5Mb. 3 months of shouting at asians and all I can do is phone their freephone number every week and get my profile manually set higher again, which their automated system nerfs within 3 days. Added to that, they actively cap your speed at peak times far beyond what heavier local traffic would cause, and they throttle your P2P transfers like nobody's business. µtorrent's encryption helps somewhat, but not much.
Things to check:
How far are you from the exchange? That's the green box.
Is the cabling taking the phone connection into your house black (good) or grey (bad)?
Is your router plugged into your home's main phone socket? If not, how many extensions are there and how many are in use? Are they daisy-chained (good) or starred (bad)?
Check your router settings (default 192.168.1.254, on the home hub go to Settings -> Advanced Settings -> Broadband -> Adsl) and check your downstream, attenuation and error seconds.
This'll give you a good idea if it's all BT or if your home's rubbish for broadband.
On this topic, where can I find my synch rate on the router page? Would it be named something else?
Things to check:
How far are you from the exchange? That's the green box.
Is the cabling taking the phone connection into your house black (good) or grey (bad)?
Is your router plugged into your home's main phone socket? If not, how many extensions are there and how many are in use? Are they daisy-chained (good) or starred (bad)?
Check your router settings (default 192.168.1.254, on the home hub go to Settings -> Advanced Settings -> Broadband -> Adsl) and check your downstream, attenuation and error seconds.
This'll give you a good idea if it's all BT or if your home's rubbish for broadband.
On this topic, where can I find my synch rate on the router page? Would it be named something else?
Ha, I was forced to use dial-up a month or two ago, when my ADSL packed in briefly due to local issues, and my god, it was painful... browsing this forum was reasonably okay but any site with lots of images etc. was atrocious.Most sites are all interactive with flash menus and videos and rich graphics. Most dial up connections wouldn't be able to brows the internet anymore.
Whereas the difference between browsing the web on 2Mb and say 10Mb is negligible.
God I hate throttling. When it gets to peak time at my mum's house when I visit (whish I pay for her), I can't stream content from youtube or iplayer.
Shame they can't shape the traffic so it's only p2p that's affected. I don't care about pirating stuff, I just want to watch legal stuff during peak time and for it not to be affected by a load of people downloading GBs of games/music/movies.
Shame they can't shape the traffic so it's only p2p that's affected. I don't care about pirating stuff, I just want to watch legal stuff during peak time and for it not to be affected by a load of people downloading GBs of games/music/movies.
um no. but it's true that they have the most customers. this is because....
a) the crappy adverts. apart from virgin (cable) what other isps advertise on tv?
b) it's BT ergo it must be good.
c) people have a BT phoneline and are completely unaware that other isps even exist and are perfectly capable of supplying a decent service
d) aggressive marketing bull****. i was at my mates house the other day and his mum thought she was getting a bargain package of line rental + broadband for 40 quid a month from BT. talk about mis-selling. there's no way she needs the most expensive package as she only uses email and facebook. she said they had cold called her and offered this fantastic deal......
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Same here, I can't wait until my BT contract is up, during peak hours I barely get 1mb, and P2P between the hours of 9am until 12 midnight is practically locked down, luckily I spend my most of my hours on the net after 12 midnight which is the only time I find BT BB any good, no traffic shaping after 12, but god help anyone that uses BT BB in the day, terrible service.
I have just moved into a new property and decided to go with the full BT package, ie, vision, broadband and telephone. Its been about 6 months now and I couldn't complain about them even if I wanted too. I live in quite a remote area and the max speed i can get is 6meg and I have been getting exactly that.
The only thing I will say is that there billing structure is very confusing when going for a package such as the one I chose.
The only thing I will say is that there billing structure is very confusing when going for a package such as the one I chose.
The green box is not the exchange, that's the street cab, your distance from the street cab will make no difference until VDSL FTTC is introduced.
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Wilat all ISPs, "mileage will vary" according to location and usage - anyone who tells you otherwise is talking spheres. I have a vague feeling that BT use traffic shaping and they certainly were using Phorm which seems a good enough reason not to use them. Go BeThere, they do seem to have a good rep.
