The Greys...

Well the only problem would be (if we want to narrow this down..)

Is: What are their motivations? their intentions? Basically these entities exist (in some form) and they are apparently seen to be involving themselves in another species (ie us) either negatively or positively.

So we have to ask what is their relationship to us? Is it cattle? Is it as you would look in on an endangered species? Or what?

So we can imagine all sorts of terrifying scenarios but thats a product of our own mind. (how much our own mind plays in Reality is another question)

We know less than nothing imo tbh... just a load of anecdotal evidence and the scientific studies that are done show that we are disturbingly susceptible to influence regarding Reality. That is, it is possible to scientifically create a terrifying situation experienced on the part of the subject.

This to me shows not that there are a bunch of aliens out there abducting us, messing with us (+ on whatever conspiracy you like).

More rather that reality is more complex than simply there being an external world and we are autonomous, separate subjects existing in this external world.

imo the Reality (TM) "map" (or what we think of what Reality is and how it works..talking basic definitions here) has to be utterly utterly redrawn and re-written.


I've seen flaming Satans, had 3 "alien doctors" come and inject me, had snakes cruelling in my room and many many other things. Guess what it's not aliens. It's sleep paralysis. These are all usually reaquering. before anyone says we don't understand sleep paralysis fully. We do know what stages of sleep we are in and brain waves, we also know there is nothing in the room.
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Explaining something in terms of something else which is also not explained isn't really an explanation.

We don't understand sleep paralysis but then we dont actually know why we sleep either. There are theories and some have more credence than others but thats all it is - is a theory. I would say as a species we understand very little - however we have "knowledge" about a great many things. :)

oh and Define "nothing". :)
 
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Surfer said:
We don't understand sleep paralysis but then we dont actually know why we sleep either. There are theories and some have more credence than others but thats all it is - is a theory. I would say as a species we understand very little - however we have "knowledge" about a great many things. :)

oh and Define "nothing". :)
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we may not understand it, but we have got video cameras and other equipment measuring what is happening. We know that the reason you can't move is the normal sleep reaction and not being injected or what not by aliens. we also know no physical being has entered the room whilst people are suffering sleep paralysis.

Nothing is the lack of anything, something that doesn't exist in the universe. There's always something.
 
The best video is "Alien Abduction - Incident in Lake County". Search for it on Youtube.

Before a few years ago when internet video hit critical mass this video was rare as hens teeth...
 
Then there's people who get sleep paralysis and don't know what it is. It is so vivid, it does feel like someone could abduct you, if you don't know what it is. Waking up unable to move seeing things, people, objects. Then all off a sudden you wake up at your normal time unable to remember the last few hours.
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I wonder how many people who have had instances of "sleep paralysis" felt like they could be abducted? (genuine question as sleep paralysis does not necessarily entail feeling abducted) and should not necessarily be used as a reason/ explanation for an abduction anyway.
I remember having had sleep paralysis a number of times and my main concern was my lack of ability in being able to move, not my dream or anything else for that matter.

It is so vivid, it does feel like someone could abduct you,
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I still fail to see the connection?

Do you find it funny that when one book or film (i forget which) wrote about aliens in flying saucers, suddenly everyone stopped seeing cigar shaped ufo's and started seeing saucers....
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No not at all as people were reporting "flying saucers" long before they were reporting cigar shaped ufo's ;)
 
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just to throw something else into the mix:

Everyone knows that grey's and UFO's are simply humans from the future. They have developed to the point that they can no longer procreate and need to travel back in time to perform odd sexual experiments in order to try and save the future human race.

:D :D
 
No1newts said:
Its very convenient how aliens, who were born way out the deep, deep galaxy look exactley like the X-Files predicted they would! Chris Carter is a damn psychic genius!
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because aliens werent descibed elsewhere first?

there are flying saucers spoken about in the bible, probably greys depicted somewhere in ancient times
 
gurusan said:
erm, where? lol . some people are just so stupid.
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I'm assuming he means the well-known passage in Ezekial which more accurately describes a particularly vivid hallucination brought on by too many magic mushrooms after fasting. Really, it could be just about anything he's banging on about.


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ethan said:
I wonder how many people who have had instances of "sleep paralysis" felt like they could be abducted? (genuine question as sleep paralysis does not necessarily entail feeling abducted) and should not necessarily be used as a reason/ explanation for an abduction anyway.
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Why not, something as odd as sleep paralyisis is terrifying when you don't know what it is, I expect many many abductions/alien meetings are due to sleep paralysis.

yes lots of sleep paralysis is just unable to move with a presence sat on your chest. But you can see anything.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
Why not, something as odd as sleep paralyisis is terrifying when you don't know what it is, I expect many many abductions/alien meetings are due to sleep paralysis.
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I've had SP probably around 10 times in my life... it's not fun but i've got to the point now where part of me is awake enough to realise what it is. I can see how many people who only ever have it once or twice freak out though.
 
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