Leon Cupra TDI (2004) Talk to me...

I couldn't live with a car without cruise control now.

It'd be like having a dishwasher and then going back to washing the dishes by hand, i.e. unbearable.
 
To you maybe. You do need a certain amount of stamina to drive a car with your right foot.



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I'm with you on this one. No I don't have a car with cruise, but I just don't see how not having your foot on the throttle is such a major advantage that you'd over look the ideal car because it doesn't have it fitted. Surely you are going to want your right foot close to the brake pedal incase you had to do some heavy braking, so I don't imagine you could put your right leg anywhere significantly more comfortable without delaying your braking time, and even then nobody realistically travels up the motorway at a constant speed, you've got to constantly speed up and slow down, and while I know is possible to do this with the cruise control buttons, surely you'd agree it is far easier to simply poke the throttle pedal more or less?
 
So just say for example that I were to get a new job which was a fairly decent commute and i'd be doing 25000 miles a year SDP&C...
Move closer to work... of that 25k, say 15k is commuting, over ~250 days a year that's 60 miles a day, well over an hour in the car? Life's too short for that!
 
It's not about comfort - its about ease, the example above of 50mph average speed checks is a perfect example.

Not having to concentrate on your speed makes the journey more relaxing and means you can give more concentration to other things that are going on around you
 
the people who don't seem to want cruise are clearly those who have never had it :)
my leon's got it and it's a massive benefit on long motorway journeys

it'd certainly be a necessity on my next car, regardless of how much i use motorways :p
 
I have a 55 FR 150, had it for just over 3.5 years and still love the car, remap, watch out for the clutch slipping but other then that the only issue for me would be lack of cruise on the motorway. I dont do many motorway miles but if i did 25k per year im not so sure what i would go for. After the Leon the only step up for me is a 330.
 
I have an 04 Leon cupra TDI and do 19k a year commute. Its a fantastic car to drive all that way in. Its comfortable, good looking, sound system is good, plenty of room. Not bothered about not having cruise control tbh.

I was doing 25k+ a year last year and not in a million years would I consider an old shape Leon for that sort of mileage. Seating position all wrong, refinement poor, not much noise insulation, a lot of vibration going through the cabin. You definitely feel it after a long journey.

You only think the Leon is comfortable because you haven't driven a genuinely comfortable car over that distance. If you had, you would never go back.

As the old adage goes, you can't miss what you never had.

OP - considering a previous generation Leon over a S60 is laughable.
 
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I was doing 25k+ a year last year and not in a million years would I consider an old shape Leon for that sort of mileage. Seating position all wrong, refinement poor, not much noise insulation, a lot of vibration going through the cabin. You definitely feel it after a long journey.

You only think the Leon is comfortable because you haven't driven a genuinely comfortable car over that distance. If you had, you would never go back.

nonsense. i've driven bergen - brussels three times and i was only knackered because it's bloody far
there is nothing wrong with the leon for long distances. maybe you were driving a tdi with 90bhp and skinny tyres or something?

the only complaint i have is the lack of thigh support on the old recaros

obviously if i had the choice i'd take an E60, but it's not mine so i can't :p
 
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I noticed a distinct difference in the way I feel after a long trip in various cars.

In the last month I've made the 330 mile round trip to Southampton in one day in 3 cars - a BMW 118d M Sport, a BMW 320d M Sport and a BMW 530i Sport.

I felt like I'd just done 330 miles in a single day in the 1 Series, I felt like I'd just driven for ages in the 3 Series and I felt able to turn around and do it all again if I needed to in the 5 Series.

Anyone who disagrees obviously hasn't had the chance to compare different sized cars on similar trips.

I'd be ready to poke my eyes out after doing it in a Leon.
 
How do BMW pitch the 3 vs the 5 differently? In terms of usage? I wouldn't grumble if I was given a 3 series to drive 300 miles in. (This isn't me disagreeing with you btw I just think your'e exaggerating slightly ;) )
 
it's true though. wider track, longer wheelbase.
this was covered on page 1 :p

3 = compact executive
5 = executive
 
You didn't read what I said properly - the 3 Series was fine, but there was a difference. I had difficulty wording the 3 Series bit to convey what I meant. It's the smaller 1 that made really feel like I'd driven, whereas doing it in a 5 makes you feel like you've driven far at all. The 3 is a balance between them.
 
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