Somali woman stoned for adultery

Uriel · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:17

On a seperate but related issue - should there be a legal penalty for adultery (i.e. a married person sleeping with someone they aren't married to without the consent of their spouse)?

Adultery has effectively been decriminalised in England since the 1700s. Has this gone too far? Should adultery be a criminal offence or merely a civil one?

mollymoo · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:17

Robbie G said:
Obviously murder, as there is no such thing as sharon's law in the UK.

scorza · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:22

mollymoo said:
So if it happened here and the offenders claimed Sharian law would it be ok or classed as murder by British law?

Well, we must respect other people's cultures...

daz · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:23

Uriel said:
On a seperate but related issue - should there be a legal penalty for adultery (i.e. a married person sleeping with someone they aren't married to without the consent of their spouse)?

Adultery has effectively been decriminalised in England since the 1700s. Has this gone too far? Should adultery be a criminal offence or merely a civil one?

Well, it's one of the 10 commandmants, and the BNP think we should go back to our "heritage". :rolleyes:

Monkeynut · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:24

What I think is funny is that the people who say this is awful are also the people who start the lynch mob whenever someone else does something bad.. "Throw them off a bridge!!" etc.

Cosimo · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:24

Von Smallhausen said:
It isn't justice.

Yup, it's ancient barbarism.

antijoke · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:25

Uriel said:
On a seperate but related issue - should there be a legal penalty for adultery (i.e. a married person sleeping with someone they aren't married to without the consent of their spouse)?

Adultery has effectively been decriminalised in England since the 1700s. Has this gone too far? Should adultery be a criminal offence or merely a civil one?

What about stoning to death?

No it shouldn't be an offence of any sort.

mollymoo · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:25

Uriel said:
On a seperate but related issue - should there be a legal penalty for adultery (i.e. a married person sleeping with someone they aren't married to without the consent of their spouse)?

Adultery has effectively been decriminalised in England since the 1700s. Has this gone too far? Should adultery be a criminal offence or merely a civil one?

Depends on how seriously you take marriage, as it stands it's good grounds for divorce which can then net you a good profit if done right.

scorza said:
Well, we must respect other people's cultures...

Yeah

Uriel · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:26

daz said:
Well, it's one of the 10 commandmants, and the BNP think we should go back to our "heritage".

That would be deeply ironic. The 10 commandments were given to a bunch of refugees (Exodus 10:2)

Yamahahahahaha · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:28

I'm glad to see the Somali's preserving their culture in the face of education and rational thought.

Participant · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:29

mollymoo said:
Obviously murder, as there is no such thing as sharon's law in the UK.

Click to expand...

May I ask why you quoted me...?

antijoke · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:29

I just thought of a way to deal with Somali pirates.....

Anyone remember pop-up pirate?

RDM · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:33

Uriel said:
On a seperate but related issue - should there be a legal penalty for adultery (i.e. a married person sleeping with someone they aren't married to without the consent of their spouse)?

Not as such no, but I do think it should be an issue in setlement for any divorce proceedings.

Uriel said:
Adultery has effectively been decriminalised in England since the 1700s. Has this gone too far? Should adultery be a criminal offence or merely a civil one?

No, it hasn't gone too far. Should the law really be getting that involved in personal lives?

mollymoo · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:34

Robbie G said:
May I ask why you quoted me...?

Just pointing out the sharons law spin

Uriel · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:34

Isn't theft a personal issue? Why is it objectively worse than adultery?

RDM · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:39

Uriel said:
Isn't theft a personal issue? Why is it objectively worse than adultery?

Possibly because the idea of a wife as "property" isn't really something I would like to go back to. What benefit would there be to criminalising adultry?

Uriel · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:44

If marriage vows are anything to go by, a wife and husband are technically both each other's property.

"Everything I am is yours, everything I have is yours".

I'm quite happy to be my wife's property.

As for benefits - less children having to be put through the stress of their parents divorcing for one.

I don't seriously think adultery should be criminalised but it does concern me how trivial it's now perceived.

shauncr91 · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:48

daz said:
Personally I don't agree with the death penalty in any circumstances.

Are there any people that would call this barbaric but also want the death penalty returned for certain crimes in the UK?

Yes, adultery is a pretty minor crime. (If you want to call it a crime)

Lets go the whole extreme, if someone goes and bombs a nursery, then it isn't a barbaric punishment.

Uriel · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:50

That's kind of my point. Adultery isn't a crime at all in this country.

RDM · 18 Nov 2009 at 16:51

Uriel said:
If marriage vows are anything to go by, a wife and husband are technically both each other's property.

"Everything I am is yours, everything I have is yours".

I'm quite happy to be my wife's property.

I personally hold my wife in much more regard than to treat her as property. And it all depends on which marriage vows you are talking about.

Uriel said:
As for benefits - less children having to be put through the stress of their parents divorcing for one.

That isn't a benefit of criminalising adultry unless you can prove that making it illegal would have a deterant effect. Not to mention that the stress of living with parents who no longer love each other is in many ways much worse than the stress of divorce. The four years of constant arguing prior to my parents getting divorced was considerably more stressful than the divorce and the time after it.

Uriel said:
I don't seriously think adultery should be criminalised but it does concern me how trivial it's now perceived.

It is only as trivial as you allow it to be. I certainly don't consider my fidelity to be a trivial issue. If others do, it really isn't my place to tell them how they should think or act.