yes you could, the ruling was that the NIP issuer should take greater measures to be able to prove they sent it to you, i.e. recorded at minimum, special delivery more likely.
Got flashed by a GATSO.
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if a letter is sent from say nottingham it will have a stamp from nottingham , this letter might be addressed to newcastle where it might not turn up on someones doorstep for over a month (assuming it gets misplaced or whatever) , you cant proove when it arrived if you dont have to sign for it
most people did think that:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18073135&highlight=precedent
They have to send it expecting it to arrive within 2 weeks.
This might be good news for my ex cause she ran a red light that has a camera on it on the 1st November and its been more than 2 weeks now. Does this mean that she wont have to pay up or does the time limit only apply to speed cameras.
Who cares, shes your Ex.
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I'm amazed
I hadn't realised that Speed Cameras were connected to pressure sensors and have never seen any change in the road surface that might indicate this to be the case. Is this true of ALL Speed Cameras or just some?
This is true but we still like each other. Just wondered thats all.
most speed cameras that you'll take the time to look at the road surface for are in a 30, where there's no variation in speed limits.I'm amazed
I hadn't realised that Speed Cameras were connected to pressure sensors and have never seen any change in the road surface that might indicate this to be the case. Is this true of ALL Speed Cameras or just some?
On any single carriage road the maximum speed limit for HGVs is 40mph.
obviously not including 20/30mph zones lol...
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Yup, fair comment and I guess that there is no differential speed limit for HGVs in a 30mph limit area either, so no need for pressure sensors . . .
I'll keep an eye out for pressure sensors in future because I guess the ruling will also apply to trailers?
That explains why they all do 40 on the A53.. I thought it was because that was the maximum safe speed for them
, due to it being a bit twisty. I thought it was just Tesco lorries who for some reason had low speed limits (company policy).Until recently there were no such sensors on thet stretch of the A556, its common knowledge in the trucking community that they were fitted recently when the A556 was re-surfaced. Thats how they can tell the difference in size / weight of vehicle.
That stretch of road is a dual carriageway, but, only the latter mile or so has barriers in the middle of the road separating the respective carriageways. Therefore the section with barriers is classed as a dual carriageway for HGV's and the section without is not hence the 40MPH limit.
I'm amazed
I hadn't realised that Speed Cameras were connected to pressure sensors and have never seen any change in the road surface that might indicate this to be the case. Is this true of ALL Speed Cameras or just some?
Not entirely sure mate, I'm guessing some not all.
As far as trucks are concerned, certainly I'm not so sure about a car & caravan though.
That explains why they all do 40 on the A53.. I thought it was because that was the maximum safe speed for them
No mate its any HGV over 7.5Ton.
That said, on Saturday last I was overtaken by a 44ton Artic (whilst I was doing 40MPH) on the A570 heading towards Southport! - The damn fool nearly had a head on with some poor sod coming the other way.....
Lots of cameras on that stretch of the A556 between Northwich and Manchester - 2 northbound and 3 southbound - on my route to/from work.
My last speeding ticket was from the southbound one at Tabley. Like R420 I had a brief lapse of concentration and got snapped doing 46mph in a HGV. It's over four years now and my licence is now clean again.
I'm guessing that R420 got flashed by the ones near Mere golf course.
Christ, I stand corrected.
The reason I flagged the point up initially, is because I'm always hearing idiots referring to the loops by our local cameras as pressure sensors.
Its a pretty serious effort to catch a few HGVs doing 10MPH too fast because of the lack of central reservation.
Not mayn big places to overtake in cars in parts of that road, let alone an artic!
Can you remember which stretch of the road it was on?
Under the Post Office Act, 1st class post is deemed to have arrived within 10 days of it being sent. This applies as much to bank statements and bills as it does to speeding fines (except in Northern Ireland). Most police forces these days are scanning the outgoing envelopes to provide proof of postage.
They can use pressure sensors or height sensors. The picture will then be verified by a human being who will have to look up the vehicle's details and determine what weight it is and thus what set of speed limits apply.
Why is the HGV limit lower than the posted 50 anyway, I thought this only applied to NSL?[/QUOTE]
NSL is National Speed Limit. The National Speed Limit for HGVs on a single carriageway is 40mph. That limit applies nationally, even if there is a sign saying 50, the NSL for your vehicle overrules it.
afaik it's 10%+2 same as the discretionary everywhere else it's used. Unfortunately this is cheshire, and they tend to be a bit harsher, fingers crossed the camera wasn't live. Not a million miles from how I got caught last year, was driving into blackpool down the big dual carriageway bit thinking it was 40, so went through the camera checking that the needle was bang on 40 and realised it was a 30 when it flashed
10%+2 = 46mph is the minimum speed for prosecution. There's a fair chance that R420's speedo overreads by more than 2mph, better hope so as I'm pretty sure Cheshire don't do speed awareness courses yet.
R420LA6X2/4MNA said:
For caravans it's 50 in an SC and 60 on a DC and Motorway
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They have proof of postage, not the Police's fault it didn't turn up. The offence still stands. Oh and you'll have to go to court to argue this so that's just put the price up by at least £15
danb21t said:
Doesn't work like that. Don't even bother trying.
Just past the BP Filling Station opposite Bucklow Hill Garage - had the sodding things changed prior to me going through I would have been no where near that speed after pulling away at that weight...
About a mile or so from Ormskirk. - I sent a strongly worded e-mail to the haulier concerned but did not give any details about the vehicle involved.
The 40 limit applies to LGV's on a dual carriageway that has no central reservation (that stretch has just a white line) effectively this makes the road to all intense & purpose a single carriageway as far as HGV drivers are concerned.
As a professional driver I'm expected to know that (which I do all too well!) unfortunately as I said, it was a lapse on my part, entirely my fault and I'll take whatever is due.
I reported the matter to my traffic office on return to my depot and it appears that I'm not the only one who's been caught out there.
Lesson learned.