Office 2010 Public Beta

madindehead · 19 Nov 2009 at 18:12

Is this beta pretty stable?

If it's along the lines of the Windows 7 beta quality, then I would assume it's pretty good for everyday use.

I need Outlook for my phone contacts, and Excel everyday for important things.

Will need to remove my Office Ultimate 2007 to run this I guess?

dazz25 · 19 Nov 2009 at 18:31

madindehead said:
Is this beta pretty stable?

If it's along the lines of the Windows 7 beta quality, then I would assume it's pretty good for everyday use.

I need Outlook for my phone contacts, and Excel everyday for important things.

Will need to remove my Office Ultimate 2007 to run this I guess?

No beta is stable for important things. I wouldn't use if unless it's for testing purposes until it's been fully tested by a lot of the public.

marc2003 · 19 Nov 2009 at 19:34

outlook is pretty shocking. gmail/imap is terrible (works fine in live mail) and the threaded conversations are a joke. it groups together messages with the same "subject" even if they are totally unrelated from different senders. i guess it's time to "send a smiley".

but it does look pretty.

Phil2008 · 19 Nov 2009 at 19:40

Im still using office xp, dont really see the point in upgrading??

SiriusB · 19 Nov 2009 at 20:01

Updated products bring new features and security. They may also take advantage of new technology not available previously - for example new Operating Systems and protocol.

If you don't need new features then there is no point in upgrading until MS stop releasing updates/patches for it.

Not sure what problem people are having with GMail and IMAP. Mine works just fine! I have noticed in the last half hour that Outlook is a little bit eager to make anything with the same subject a conversation as marc2003 has also discovered

marc2003 · 19 Nov 2009 at 20:18

gmail is just far too slow. also i can't delete messages from the server using outlook. it just creates it's own "deleted items" folder/label which is completely useless.

Dewotter · 19 Nov 2009 at 20:28

New interface is horrendous in Outlook, Microsoft don't half hate borders

All I want is the Ribbon across all applications, as far as asthetics goes, 2007 is perfect.

mr.sly · 19 Nov 2009 at 20:30

Has anybody uploaded any screenshots yet?

SiriusB · 19 Nov 2009 at 20:31

You need to empty the Deleted Items folder inside Outlook. Its the same as the Recycle Bin within Windows. You should be able to set Outlook to nuke that folder when it closes.

I do agree that they should at least use the Bin folder GMail already has.

Can't say much about speed. It could probably be a bit quicker, but then I did a nuke recently so don't have much in my GMail inbox.

Phil2008 · 19 Nov 2009 at 20:31

Ms office xp is still being updated by ms, plus I have the ms office compatible for 2007

marc2003 · 19 Nov 2009 at 20:44

mr.sly said:
Has anybody uploaded any screenshots yet?

here's one of outlook....

marc2003 · 19 Nov 2009 at 20:52

SiriusB said:
You need to empty the Deleted Items folder inside Outlook.

it doesn't delete the mail. it just removes the labels. it's still in "all mail".

SiriusB · 19 Nov 2009 at 20:54

Here are some quick screen shots. I am currently using the Black Theme.

Mail Pane with Home ribbon

Mail Pane with Send/Receive ribbon

Mail Pane with Folders ribbon

Mail Pane with View ribbon

The File menu

The Calendar etc all look pretty much the same as 2007.

I think it is quite pretty, though I think some improvements could be made - it doesn't feel quite as polished as 2007 but then again it is a BETA. And to be honest after a while you tend to ignore what it looks like as you're too busy working. At least I am!

EDIT: d'oh, beaten to it

mr.sly · 19 Nov 2009 at 21:15

Thanks for the screenshots. Looks pretty nice (even the black theme which I'm not usually a fan of), just needs to be able to sync with Google Reader for RSS feeds and it would be the perfect app.

madindehead · 19 Nov 2009 at 21:29

dazz25 said:
No beta is stable for important things. I wouldn't use if unless it's for testing purposes until it's been fully tested by a lot of the public.

Well, when I say important, the things I'm working on aren't like changing or so vital that if a file gets messed up I won't have a backup.

I think I will give this a try soon.

GiB · 19 Nov 2009 at 21:33

Well I take back what I said earlier about IMAP as it is working on my home computer so its either some junk left in from the 2007 install or something strange going on with my laptop at work.

willhub · 19 Nov 2009 at 22:23

Bloody awesome this, fast as lightning :cool:

Love the black theme, makes stuff easier to see.

CaptainCrash · 19 Nov 2009 at 23:07

marc2003 said:
it doesn't delete the mail. it just removes the labels. it's still in "all mail".

This also happens using GMail/IMAP with Outlook 2007 - in order to delete stuff and have it disappear from the "All Mail" label/folder, you need to drag it to the Gmail Bin rather than using the client's delete/purge function.

I have several email accounts using a mixture of Gmail and my own host, and the inconsistent IMAP behaviour is a PITA to say the least. I think in all fairness though it's simply a consequence of (trying to) reconcile two different philosophies, rather than a failing of the client itself - mapping Gmail's labels to the conventional "folder" paradigm ends up in a bit of a mess IMHO, with neither system working as well as it should.

willhub · 19 Nov 2009 at 23:16

I can't get outlook to connect to my googlemail account

Any ideas?

marc2003 · 19 Nov 2009 at 23:19

CaptainCrash said:
This also happens using GMail/IMAP with Outlook 2007 - in order to delete stuff and have it disappear from the "All Mail" label/folder, you need to drag it to the Gmail Bin rather than using the client's delete/purge function.

and leave it there for 30 days until google delete it? i want to get rid manually right now.

it works fine with windows live mail. you just drag the mail to the "bin" and then when you delete the files there, it deletes them from the server as well.