Guide dog attack CCTV footage

[Rainmaker]

...before the stupid owner actually came over to do something. Always followed by "oh he doesn't normally do that" or "he normally listens to me"

I 'love' those folks. They seem to be a majority too, unfortunately. "ZOMG Fluffy never did this before." (remains of previous encounters still clearly visible in Fluffy's teeth)... Or the best one... "ARGH GET YOUR DOG OFF MY DOG!!!". (while your dog is still on its lead, pinned to the floor and/or being lifted clear of the ground and shaken violently). Some people just shouldn't be allowed to own dogs. Period.

The worst ones are when the local bimbos (male and female) are roaming around off the beaten track - I don't take my dogs to populated areas - and have their dog/s off the lead. Theirs approach you and yours, hackles and tails up. You shout nicely "Can you get your dog on a lead please?" while tightening your grip on yours. "Oh it's OK, he doesn't bite."

"Mine does :\ " usually gets the fastest response, I've found.

 

[Dogbreath]

A swift punch to the nose makes most dogs think twice, but I don't have any experience with chav pets.

 

[^TANK^]

"Oh it's OK, he doesn't bite."

"Mine does :\ " usually gets the fastest response, I've found.

Lol, when I lived at home I had a Whippet and a Grey hound soft as anything but generally very nervous around strangers and other dogs! When I used to walk them I would get dogs bolting up to me and like you I would say please can you retrieve your dog/put him/her on a lead to which they would reply "Not to worry they don't bite" and my reply to them was well I do worked like a charm every time.

 

[zootfloot]

That dog should have been muzzled before he walked it out of the front door! People really should be checked out before they can get their hands on a dog thats potently capable of such volatile behaviour.

Completely agree, i dont have a problem with people owning this type of dog, however i believe they should be muzzled and leashed when out in public.

In fact i am not going to just pick on this type of dog, i am going to say that all dogs should be muzzled when out in public, then there are no arguments to be had.

 

[The IPB]

Or maybe some form of licence that proves your dog is not agressive to other dogs, some official dog socialisation course or something.

Would never take off, but there is a dream. It would be sad to make it so that no dogs could enjoy chasing a ball at the park, just because of a minority.

 

[Clum]

Completely agree, i dont have a problem with people owning this type of dog, however i believe they should be muzzled and leashed when out in public.

In fact i am not going to just pick on this type of dog, i am going to say that all dogs should be muzzled when out in public, then there are no arguments to be had.

While I dont want to agree with that I can see that It would be a pretty sensible option. Thing is though, if he had been holding the lead instead of necking a beer in a train station in the morning, the the dog would have never made a run for the guide dog. Ban alcoholics from having dogs. Obviously just as dangerous to be in charge of a potentially dangerous animal as a motor vehicle isn't it?

A lot of people are idiots so as sad as it is, perhaps there should be some sort of test for pet ownership these days.

 

[Cosimo]

I despair. Hopefully the police will catch up with them and give them BOTH the bullet.

This, we watched this in disbelief last night and there is nothing more to say.

 

[SfnX]

its retards like him who put people like that in danger, he should be evicted or something, gr8 to wake up and see how a guide dog is being savaged by a breed of dog which should be put down or controlled properly, theyre basically chav dogs

 

[wordy]

I cannot begin to tell you how much it annoys me when people do have dogs off the lead, my dog has been attacked on multiple occasions by dogs off the lead. Unfortunately only times when the mrs was walking him so I couldn't do anything.

The time a bull mastiff tried attacking him and I was there I picked him up and this dog was still trying to get at him and got me a few times, so it got a couple of swift kicks to head before the stupid owner actually came over to do something. Always followed by "oh he doesn't normally do that" or "he normally listens to me"

Yep, due to this our dog now goes into psycho mode everytime a strange dog come up to him when he's on a lead.

Wednesday night he was charged by a german shepard that has done this on more than one occaision. I'm pretty good at reading my dog and can control him but that night even though I was on balance and braced I was struggling to hold him.

But as I own an Akita it would've been my fault if I'd let go and that grerman shepard got badly hurt.

 

[Rainmaker]

by a breed of dog which should be put down or controlled properly, theyre basically chav dogs

I understand your anger, but you can't summarily decide an entire breed of dog should be wiped out due to the actions of an ignorant few. Bullies are popular 'headline' dogs these days, before them it was Rotties, and Dobermanns. Considering the immense population, they're actually involved in very few incidences indeed.

While I agree that bull types (and increasingly, bull/mastiff types) are popular amongst those with small penises lately, that doesn't make them "basically chav dogs". It means a very useful, intelligent, athletic and loyal type of dog has become popular with chavs. Big difference, not necessitating wiping out the population.

 

[wordy]

its retards like him who put people like that in danger, he should be evicted or something, gr8 to wake up and see how a guide dog is being savaged by a breed of dog which should be put down or controlled properly, theyre basically chav dogs

No they aren’t at all. Funnily enough, despite being a big guy with a skinhead and owning an Akita I was happy to generalise that Staffies were horrible chav dogs( hypocrite eh? ) this was until we started volunteering at a rescie centre where you guessed, it most of the dogs were staffies. The 1st one I walked was a 3 year old called Daisy, and she was the most gentle dog I’ve ever had the honour of meeting, and made me realise it wasn’t the breed I hated, but the chav owners. The breeds themselves when brought up right are wonderful dogs.

I understand your anger, but you can't summarily decide an entire breed of dog should be wiped out due to the actions of an ignorant few. Bullies are popular 'headline' dogs these days, before them it was Rotties, and Dobermanns. Considering the immense population, they're actually involved in very few incidences indeed.

While I agree that bull types (and increasingly, bull/mastiff types) are popular amongst those with small penises lately, that doesn't make them "basically chav dogs". It means a very useful, intelligent, athletic and loyal type of dog has become popular with chavs. Big difference, not necessitating wiping out the population.

Good post. Unfortunately for me there is an association of thugs and Akitas, and being a tall heavily built guy with no hair, I suppose I look the part. However they are falling out of favour with those types due them being such difficult dogs to train and look after correctly. But I suppose the association will always be there as there are idiots that do own them

 

[Dup]

People get very uppity about dogs. I can let mine off the lead and have no problems and other people will just do the same and they will run after my dogs, snap at them so mine snap back. That's no fighting, that's establishing who's boss, but most fat town dog owners don't understand this and start having a go, so I just leave them to it.

When you get into a situation like in the video, the dogs are locked jaws round the throats and it's only when you see that happen for the first time how stong your dog can be. You quickly learn that a swift kick in the throat of the dominating dog will end it quickly enough for you to control the dog, and that's lesson learnt that you need to gain more control of your dog in future. Who knows if it was the first time on this occasion, but he should have donw something to help the woman and her poor dog. Maybe in the heat of the moment he didn't realise it was a guide dog (unmarked from what I can see) as he tried to stop his dog before he saw the woman it seems.

 

[Rainmaker]

When you get into a situation like in the video, the dogs are locked jaws round the throats and it's only when you see that happen for the first time how stong your dog can be. You quickly learn that a swift kick in the throat of the dominating dog will end it quickly enough for you to control the dog, and that's lesson learnt that you need to gain more control of your dog in future.

It doesn't quite work out that way when your dog is a 50lb bull terrier with the red mist. A kick to the throat would just annoy it even more, if it even noticed. That's presuming you can land a kick to its throat while it's in close quarters over its victim.

More to the point, why on earth would you kick a dog in its throat anyway? I'm no fat townie (I spend 90% of my time in the country, hunt, and keep working dogs) but I've never needed, or felt the need, to kick a dog in its throat. That includes over a decade of owning Pit Bull Terriers, Staffies and American Bulldogs. But hey ho. Oh, and dogs' jaws don't lock.

 

[The IPB]

All breeds of dog can be dangerous anyway, if you look up the data for most bites by a breed of dog it's not staffs that's for sure.

Kicking a dog which is attacking can just make it more agressive, I was watching one of those "Americas worst videos" or something and they were hitting a pitbull with a lump of wood and it wouldn't let go. Tazer sorted it lol

 

[Dup]

It doesn't quite work out that way when your dog is a 50lb bull terrier with the red mist. A kick to the throat would just annoy it even more, if it even noticed. That's presuming you can land a kick to its throat while it's in close quarters over its victim.

More to the point, why on earth would you kick a dog in its throat anyway? I'm no fat townie (I spend 90% of my time in the country, hunt, and keep working dogs) but I've never needed, or felt the need, to kick a dog in its throat. That includes over a decade of owning Pit Bull Terriers, Staffies and American Bulldogs. But hey ho. Oh, and dogs' jaws don't lock.

...and so have I, but I aint owned anything other than a lab. I didn't mean locking in the literal sense, I meant more in the "not letting go" sense. They bite and hold trying to collapse the other dogs throat, IE; kill it.

By kicking I mean enough to shock them into letting go. Cutting the airway for a moment is all it takes and if you've ever had some selfish pricks dog trying to kill you own you'll know how it feels. It is easier to shove your finger beween the collarbone which pokes the airway and makes them pull back, if you're brave enough to get that close. Works with humans too.

You may not have needed to, but when you are forced out of your lovely country area due to over inflated house prices and have to live in a town, you learn quickly that many people have big strong powerful dogs with no respect or regard for others, or the decency to train them for good purposes and laugh when their dog is trying to kill yours. The type of people that use those stupid body harnesses a restraint and get dragged along at arms length.

 

[Beasty]

How someone like that is allowed possession of a dog like that boggles the mind. He is clearly not up to the job, what business did he have there and why was he drinking? He seemed to know what was going to happen before the dog even set off too which makes me wonder if it has happened before.

 

[Busa]

A swift punch to the nose makes most dogs think twice, but I don't have any experience with chav pets.

Best of luck with that method

 

[Robbo]

I like how at the end the guide dog goes in for some more!

(Evil sense of humour yes)

 

[Kenai]

As I said earlier, as someone who has kept and bred bullies and terriers for a lot of years, that's not true. It would have taken a few seconds at most for any responsible dog owner to break the dog off with a 'breaking stick'*. Such an implement is always within reach of a responsible 'bull & terrier' owner, and is basically a chiselled down hammer handle type device. You insert it into the dog's mouth between the canine and premolars, and twist gently but firmly to break the bite. Easy, fast and safe.

But chavs who carry beer around with their penis extensions don't know this. Nor should they have such dogs in the first place.

EDIT: * That's a lie actually. A RESPONSIBLE owner wouldn't have allowed this situation to develop in the first place. But I digress.

I can't help but feel a breed of dog where the owner is required to carry around a 'breaking stick' just in case should require a license to own. If you need to carry around such tools, dogs like that should really be subject to restricted ownership.

In fact, it would be easier if you needed a license for any dog really.

 

[wordy]

In fact, it would be easier if you needed a license for any dog really.

I'd go with that.