Tasers girl who resisted bedtime shower

diverse180 said:
Hmmm, I think I know what dmp will be asking for this Christmas...
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Hmmm, I don't think DMP advocates using a Tazer but if that is lawful in their country and it eventually calmed her down from doing harm to herself, then it was PROBABLY a good move.
It's also important to note that she had a brief drive stun which means her body wasn't pierced but instead a small electrical shock which MIGHT be similar to a good smack on the back of the legs.

It seems that most people have read girl > mother > copper > shower > living room > tazer > police station.
After doing countless Child Protection courses I've seen loads of stuff in between the keywords which shows she was over the edge.
 
vonhelmet said:
Mother calls policeman to deal with unruly 10 year old. Weird.

Mother suggests tasing her. WTF.

Policeman attempts to carry child to shower with mother. Child understandably resists.

Policeman threatens child with jail. A 10 year old. Threatened with jail for refusing to have a shower and resisting being carried into the shower by a cop.

Policeman tries to arrest child and cuff her. Child again understandably resists. Bear in mind that she is only 10 years old.

Policeman loses it and tases child.

I defy anyone to say that any of this is normal or measured, or that the child's responses are not totally understandable at any stage of the game.
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I'm with you.
 
vonhelmet said:
The question still remains as to what the hell the police were doing there in the first place. The mother has clearly failed by this point, which may be her fault or wider society's fault.

Tasering a 10 year old is still absurd, whichever you slice it.
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I expect the same as some parents do over here, call the police to arrest their child to teach them a lesson as tehy are totally uncontrollable. Public disorder, disturbing the peace or a number of other charges. This is not that un-conmen

Why the policemen tried to get her in the shower is beyond me, that should be looked at, far more than the taser. Once the cop had decided to arrest and she became violent, then it is in his rights to use the taser.

What I'm trying to say is people are up in arms that a 10 year old has been tasered. I don't see a problem with that. It's the circumstances behind it that need looking at not the tasering.
 
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I knew there was more to this story and thought it was originally about protecting the child from herself -

King said her daughter has been diagnosed with having a mood disorder and when she acts out it can turn violent.

"I want to make this clear, I'm not calling them (police) over here to handle my problem," King said. "I'm having them come over here to protect my daughter from hurting herself or hurting someone else."

King said that she has talked to her daughter who remains in a juvenile detention center.

King said her daughter is doing great and that she can't wait to bring her home.

The 10-year-old girl faces a charge of disorderly conduct.
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if she was oh so innocent she would be sitting at home now.
I'll also add that some of you have no idea what a 10 year old can do to an adult when they are over the edge.
A 5 year old girl at my wifes school has put 2 teachers in hospital and one has left working in the special units forever.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
Why the policemen tried to get her in the shower is beyond me, that should be looked at, far more than the taser. Once the cop had decided to arrest and she became violent, then it is in his rights to use the taser.
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After he had just tried to force her into the shower..

she could be pubescent at that age.. I mean come on anyone at any age should be expected to react when being affronted in that manner.

I'm worried the cop can't restrain a 10 year old without his taser. Imagine what he will do when he doesn't have it, or misses.. and has to deal with a beast..

I'd love to hear the 911 transcript for the mother calling in a call about a daughter who wouldn't shower... I hope it gets on TV.
 
Biohazard said:
I can't....
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:p well in that case, if a 10 year old does not want to be restrained it is darn difficult to do it on your own. Just like restraining anyone is hard. Unless you can get them in certain grips and only if they acknowledge the pain.

Read dmpooles post above. She is still being held for her own safety and this doesn't sound like he first time.
 
AcidHell2 said:
I expect the same as some parents do over here, call the police to arrest their child to teach them a lesson as tehy are totally uncontrollable. Public disorder, disturbing the peace or a number of other charges. This is not that un-conmen

Why the policemen tried to get her in the shower is beyond me, that should be looked at, far more than the taser. Once the cop had decided to arrest and she became violent, then it is in his rights to use the taser.

What I'm trying to say is people are up in arms that a 10 year old has been tasered. I don't see a problem with that. It's the circumstances behind it that need looking at not the tasering.
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So the police have the right to arrest ten year olds for throwing tantrums.

Love to try that. Phone 999. "Could you send a police officer to teach my child a lesson please".

Again, I'd like to refer to my previous point. What idiotic parent tarnishes their ten year old's employment prospects by putting an arrest on their police record.
 
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ghost101 said:
So the police have the right to arrest ten year olds for throwing tantrums.

Love to try that. Phone 999. "Could you send a police officer to teach my child a lesson please"
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Tantrum?
you do realise kids do physically abuse their parents, as well as possibly breaching peace laws. Depending on time of day and what they are doing.
 
ghost101 said:
So the police have the right to arrest ten year olds for throwing tantrums.

Love to try that. Phone 999. "Could you send a police officer to teach my child a lesson please".

Again, I'd like to refer to my previous point. What idiotic parent tarnishes their ten year old's employment prospects by putting an arrest on their police record.
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Read post 126, it was no tantrum and the girl is still inside.
 
dmpoole said:
Read post 126, it was no tantrum and the girl is still inside.
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Yep of course. People with mood disorders should be put in juvenile detention centres after arresting them.

Best place to treat them.

This entire episode seems to be badly handled.

AcidHell2 said:
For some kids it the least of their problems and it's not going to affect your job prospects. Really have you seen how some kids act.
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People with mood disorders aren't going to get jobs. I can tell this because because I can predict what a ten year old will do in 10 years time.

edit: overdid the sarcasm, sorry.
 
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ghost101 said:
Yep of course. People with mood disorders should be put in juvenile detention centres after arresting them.

Best place to treat them.

This entire episode seems to be badly handled.
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The entire episode once again seems badly handled by the MEDIA.
From the second I read the original report I knew there was a lot more to the story that we don't know.
If a 10 year old is still locked up then there is a very good reason and there is a lot more to the incident than the media reported.
 
Video of a 12 year old girl needing 3 male officers to arrest her.
Of course one officer has been suspended.


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