SkyHD or VirginHD

Nige01010 · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:23

Which extra channels do you mean? The Sky Arts and Luxe HD I have never watched, but the Sports package is a godsend, Football, Rugby and cricket I would be lost without theses! Oh and movies on a night there is a shortage of time available just to watch those let alone all of the other stuff that’s on other channels, Discovery HD now that has some seriously impressive documentaries on.

BBCHD & Channel 4 HD are pap! They only show repeats and play a lot of rubbish, the only stuff I watch are Like Top Gear and some rugby and football that’s on, oh Life in HD is amazing

Glaucus · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:25

Nige01010 said:
Which extra channels do you mean? The Sky Arts and Luxe HD I have never watched,

yes, as I keep saying if you get movies and/or sports then sky is the only option. But a lot of people don't get those and so you are paying an extra £10 and the draw backs for a few extra channels most people wont even watch once.

Nige01010 said:
oh Life in HD is amazing

Not really, most stuff their is little difference unless there is high speed or explosions.

Nymins · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:27

If i could get Virgin then maybe i'd think about moving since I find there isn't much on TV thats decent these days. Pity im in a non-cabled area.

AcidHell2 said:
Not really, most stuff their is little difference unless their high speed or explosions.

Eh?

Nige01010 · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:29

AcidHell2 said:
yes, as I keep saying if you get movies and/or sports then sky is the only option. But a lot of people don't get those and so you are paying an extra £10 and the draw backs for a few extra channels most people wont even watch once.

So why are we debating this then? We are going in circles, Sky has the HD crown that’s a fact and VM has the on demand and Internet crown, now it’s up to the user to choose what they want from there viewing.

Macro · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:29

I found with Sky HD that although they have more "HD" channels half the time the content in the channel is SD (Sky1 HD is a huge offender for that) or the same limited HD content repeated.

Having said that there definitely is more HD content on Sky, just not by the margin the channel list would suggest.

The other thing worth mentioning is the quality of the SD content and the rather good up scaling capabilities of the Virgin Media STB means SD content on VM is noticeably better than on Sky and much closer to HD quality for the casual observer.

Having had both services in the last year I'd say there's not much to chose between them. If it's just HD content availability you're after then Sky has it by a nose at the moment. For me I find the Virgin package to be a slightly better all-rounder.

Glaucus · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:31

Nymins said:
Eh?

Most programs in Hd there is little noticeable difference. The quality is only apparent when you have fast moving objects like in sports. Or explosions in Things like scfi and action films

Nige01010 said:
So why are we debating this then? We are going in circles, Sky has the HD crown that’s a fact and VM has the on demand and Internet crown, now it’s up to the user to choose what they want from there viewing.

As you said sky is the only sensible option, which it is not.

Nymins · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:32

AcidHell2 said:
Most programs in Hd there is little noticeable difference. The quality is only apparent when you have fast moving objects like in sports. Or explosions in Things like scfi and action films

In Life on BBCHD the difference is massive. If you can't tell the difference between it on the normal SD BBC1 and BBCHD, then there must be something wrong with either your eyesight or TV.

Glaucus · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:33

Nymins said:
In Life on BBCHD the difference is massive. If you can't tell the difference between it on the normal SD BBC1 and BBCHD, then there must be something wrong with either your eyesight or TV.

yes, but their isn't in all programs like I said. As i said some program types lend them-self to HD, others not so. remember hd tv isn't blu ray quality, where pretty mcuh everything looks better, bbc HD is also one of the higher bitrate HD channels.

Nymins · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:34

AcidHell2 said:
yes their is, but their isn't in all programs like I said. As i said some program types lend them-self to HD, others not so. remember hd tv isn't blu ray quality, where pretty mcuh everything looks better, bbc HD is also one of the higher bitrate HD channels.

Debatable, but you did just quote him on Life.

Every HD program i have watched has had a noticeable difference in quality.

Glaucus · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:35

Nymins said:
Debatable, but you did just quote him on Life.

Nymins · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:37

AcidHell2 said:

He was talking about the program Life and in your post you quoted him "oh Life in HD is amazing" and said there isn't much difference when there clearly is.

Glaucus · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:40

Nymins said:
He was talking about the program Life and in your post you quoted him "oh Life in HD is amazing" and said there isn't much difference when there clearly is.

Program in life is good in HD.

where as the other is talking generally life (as in the ones we live) is amazing in HD. two very different statements.

Nymins · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:44

Ok I'm just confused now.

Nige01010 was talking about the BBC HD program "Life" which is the sequel to Planet Earth. He said it looked good in HD (which it does) and you quoted him saying that there isn't much difference between the SD and HD.

I have no idea where you got the idea that he was talking about real life.

Glaucus · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:49

Nymins said:
Ok I'm just confused now.

Nige01010 was talking about the BBC HD program "Life" which is the sequel to Planet Earth. He said it looked good in HD (which it does) and you quoted him saying that there isn't much difference between the SD and HD.

I have no idea where you got the idea that he was talking about real life.

I quoted Nige01010 what he was saying is life (not the tv series) is good in HD. Which i said not really as a lot of stuff in HD is not amazing. Due to low bit rate and the footage not lending itself to HD. Fast moving things and high detailed images benefit from HD much more than other programs. For example American chopper is pretty pointless in HD. it's not detailed enough and no fast moving stuff, so little benefit to being in HD.

You said life(the tv program) is better in HD which I agreed with.

Nymins · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:51

AcidHell2 said:
I quoted Nige01010 what he was saying is life (not the tv series) is good in HD. Which i said not really as a lot of stuff in HD is not amazing. Due to low bit rate and the footage not lending itself to HD. Fast moving things and high detailed images benefit from HD much more than other programs. For example American chopper is pretty pointless in HD. it's not detailed enough and no fast moving stuff, so little benefit to being in HD.

You said life(the tv program) is better in HD which I agreed with.

Life as in real life? Like me at my keyboard right now type of life?

I think you have got a little mixed up on what he was talking about there.

Glaucus · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:52

Nymins said:
Life as in real life? Like me at my keyboard right now type of life?

As in all HD content. He basis his viewing only around HD and does not watch any SD stuff. There for his comment was a general one about all Hd content, not just about the tv program life.

Nymins · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:54

AcidHell2 said:
As in all HD content. He basis his viewing only around HD and does not watch any SD stuff. There for his comment was a general one about all Hd content, not just about the tv program life.

I don't think so bud, im 99.9% sure he was talking about the program. Why else would type Life with a capital 'L'? No one types it like that unless its about an actual thing. He even talked about BBCHD in the same sentence, so unless im wrong, i really really REALLY think he is talking about the program.

Glaucus · 21 Nov 2009 at 17:56

Nymins said:
I don't think so bud, im 99.9% sure he was talking about the program. Why else would type Life with a capital 'L'? No one types it like that unless its about an actual thing. He even talked about BBCHD in the same sentence, so unless im wrong, i really really REALLY think he is talking about the program.

Oh maybe, I thought he was talking about all HD stuff and how life is good because of it.

Nige01010 · 21 Nov 2009 at 18:12

No no no!!

Life on BBCHD is probably the best HD content I have viewed same as Planet earth hehe I was on about the documentary produced by the BBC shown on the HD channel.

asim18 · 21 Nov 2009 at 19:29

AcidHell2 said:
For example American chopper is pretty pointless in HD. it's not detailed enough and no fast moving stuff, so little benefit to being in HD.

.

You think that because there's no "fast moving stuff" there's no benefit of a higher image resolution?

I'm sorry but everything has a benefit of being in HD, whether it's a snail or a cheetah.

That's like saying "a snail is pointless in hd becuse it's not moving fast enough", which is utter BS.