Canon 17-55 2.8 - Opinions

Keep in mind when looking at your history of shooting that you can't consider shots that you couldn't take as you didn't have the correct focal length etc :P I'm sure this kind of analysis is useful, but use it in context :) If you can think of occasions when you didn't quite have a short enough focal length (which I regularly experience personally) etc, then this must be considered as well :)
 
I'm getting really tired of seeing the difference in image quality between my Canon 17-85 F4.0-5.6 IS and my 70-200 F4L. The 70-200 just feels so much nicer to take photographs with.

I'm thinking of replacing the 17-85 with either the EFS 17-55 f2.8 or the 24-70 f2.8 L.

The differences seems to be:

*) The 17-55 range will probably suit the 40D better (with the 1.6x it becomes a 27-88 full frame equivalent so an ideal walkabout lens, the 24-70 becomes a 40-112).

*) The image quality of the 17-55 is very good, some even say L standard, but the build quality is not so hot.

*) The 17-55 has IS, the 24-70 doesn't.

*) One costs about £825 (inc lens hood), the other about £950 so not that much in it.

Does anybody have the 17-55 - how do you rate it ?

Apologies but that all sounds like rubbish to me - like a man who is obsessed with 'kit' rather than taking photos.

I don't know the OP so have to reserve judgement. He might be a professional and will shoot me down for my criticism.

Do you enjoy taking photographs - do people enjoy looking at your work?

Are people who see your photos 'getting really tired of seeing the difference in image quality' too?
 
Apologies but that all sounds like rubbish to me - like a man who is obsessed with 'kit' rather than taking photos.

I don't know the OP so have to reserve judgement. He might be a professional and will shoot me down for my criticism.

Do you enjoy taking photographs - do people enjoy looking at your work?

Are people who see your photos 'getting really tired of seeing the difference in image quality' too?

In all fairness I can understand your interpretation of my points, but I would respond by saying:

Spending over £800 on a lens is not a decision I take lightly (nor does my wife !). As a result I wanted to get a collection of opinions to help me work through and reach a tentative decision.

My first SLR was an old Ricoh KR10 and I spent many happy teenage years printing BW and cibachrome prints in my parents downstairs bathroom.

The reasons I now have an SLR is because I like the photographic flexibility of what a modern DSLR can offer. I can experiment in 100s of ways with no costs in film, chemicals of paper.

The primary reason I take photos is passion. Pure and simple. I love the ability to play with time and perception, to capture something that the eye can the look at in its own time.

I am not a pro by any means although I do occasionally get paid to do some portraits. Having a lens that handles well makes taking a photo more enjoyable just as riding a good mountain bike feels better than a cheap one, but also importantly a good lens will allow (my own skill not withstanding) better images to be captured. More details and sharpness allow larger prints, better colours allow images to just 'look' better.

Having said that I do understand that an image is not all about sharpness, bokeh and colour contrast.

The image I look at most is soft with blown highlights taken late at night hand held with a single table light as the only light source, the power is the image, not the sharpness or the bokeh or anything like that.

It is a very simple image, in it, a close up of my mother who has just finished a course or radiotherapy, it's 2am and she is sat there staring into the camera with a exhausted sadness, her eyes are haunting. Within 8 weeks she was dead.
 
i'm in the market for a 17-55 IS over the next two weeks. and I've seen them UK for about £650-£680 so add that to your calculations
 
I've had a 17-55 for the last 6 months or so. It's a fantastic lens and 90% of the shots I take are with it. They can often be had for 5-600 quid second hand. If you're sticking to crop then there's no better walk-about lens.
 
I can fully recommend the 17-55IS, worked lovely on my 400D for the past year and it spent most of the time on it, colours and clarity are excellent could not fault it one bit.

Then got a bargain on a used 5D so moved to that with a 24-70 :D, now the 400 feels like a cheap toy.
 
In all fairness I can understand your interpretation of my points, but I would respond by saying:

Spending over £800 on a lens is not a decision I take lightly (nor does my wife !). As a result I wanted to get a collection of opinions to help me work through and reach a tentative decision.

My first SLR was an old Ricoh KR10 and I spent many happy teenage years printing BW and cibachrome prints in my parents downstairs bathroom.

The reasons I now have an SLR is because I like the photographic flexibility of what a modern DSLR can offer. I can experiment in 100s of ways with no costs in film, chemicals of paper.

The primary reason I take photos is passion. Pure and simple. I love the ability to play with time and perception, to capture something that the eye can the look at in its own time.

I am not a pro by any means although I do occasionally get paid to do some portraits. Having a lens that handles well makes taking a photo more enjoyable just as riding a good mountain bike feels better than a cheap one, but also importantly a good lens will allow (my own skill not withstanding) better images to be captured. More details and sharpness allow larger prints, better colours allow images to just 'look' better.

Having said that I do understand that an image is not all about sharpness, bokeh and colour contrast.

The image I look at most is soft with blown highlights taken late at night hand held with a single table light as the only light source, the power is the image, not the sharpness or the bokeh or anything like that.

It is a very simple image, in it, a close up of my mother who has just finished a course or radiotherapy, it's 2am and she is sat there staring into the camera with a exhausted sadness, her eyes are haunting. Within 8 weeks she was dead.

I've owned a 24-70L for a couple of years now - on the front of a 10D(!) - great lens. Was tempted to update the camera to the latest and greatest but just can't justify it.

I find the whole ensemble bulky, clumsy and frankly makes me feel a bit self conscious when walking around with it.

I've owned a few 'old-school' film cameras in my time - all of which make the current line of mainstream equipment feel a little toy like. The 24-70L is well made but still feels a little plasticky - especially when the barrel is extended. The fact that modern lenses need to be super light to aid the auto-focusing doesn't help I guess. Optical quality is superb though.

Anyway as always it's horses for courses. I like street photography and the more candid type of photos so a small camera will suit my needs better.
Absolute optical quality doesn't make for a good photograph - for me it's about using something unobtrusive and capturing something unexpected.

I'm selling my lenses (and possibly the rest of my kit) soon to but something small.

Have you seen the prices that 2nd hand 24-70Ls fetch? I was amazed when I looked. Bought mine for around £950 - they still seem to go for £750 - 850 second-hand.

Anyway, all this aside - sorry to hear about your mother. My mother died of cancer too.
 
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Have you thought about the 24-105L

I never take it off my 350d, got a 10-20 and a 70-200 F4L either side of it that don't get as much use!

I'm not bothered about it being F4 either, I've never found it limits me in what I can shoot and the IS is a massive plus. It's a nice size too.
 
I want one, but can't really justify having that and my 120-300 F2.8. :p

To be honest I think I would rather have the 24-70 F2.8 and a nice wide angel lens.
 
I must admit, I enjoy the Sigma 10-20 I have and a 24-70L would just fit nicely in the gap before my 70-200 takes over.

One of the things I love about the 50 f1.8 is the DOF and what it can do for portraits. This is one of the main reasons I would go for the 24-70 over the 24-105
 
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