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E6300 or E5300?

Muel

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I can't work out which to go for (Or the varients of each).

The C2D E6300 has a 1066 FSB, but runs at 1.8ghz and tops out at about 2.6ghz from what I've read, and it's also 65nm.

The PDC E5300 has an 800 FSB, but runs at 2.6ghz and tops out around 3.4ghz, and uses 45nm?

Which would be the better one to go for?

(Be aware there are two E6300, they have the same spec apart from one is core 2 duo using 65nm, and the other is pentium dual core using 45nm, the only other difference being that the C2D is 1.8ghz stock, and the PDC is 2.8ghz stock).
 
I think its an easy choice, the E5300 :) Its a newer chip, runs cooler, faster clock speed and will overclock better
 
I thought that'd be the case, I'll stick to the 45nm lot then. Cheers!

Hopefully I can find an PDC E6500, but maybe that's a bit wishful thinking on my budget. :P
 
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Why not go for the newer E6300 PDC thats 45nm, 1066fsb it has the same cache size as the E5300, but has a higher starting fsb, so in theroy should overclock abit better, and is only a few £ more.

Also the E5300 dos'nt top out at 3.4ghz, my old E5200 toped out at 4.2ghz, ran it 24/7 at 3.75ghz on stock volts. It would have gone higher but i had a fsb wall on mine.

Personally for me i would go for the PDC E6300, its cheaper then the C2D version, runs faster, is a better overclocker. It has a sliglty better chance to overclock then the E5300 due to its higher starting fsb.
 
Thanks for that, I'll keep an eye out for one!

I'll either be getting an E5200/5300/5400 or an E6300 if I can find one cheap enough.
 
i'll get told off for this, but ahwell, as OcUK are not stocking them lol.

Try a google search for the E6300 PDC, im sure you will find where to look, they range from £50 - £70.

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Muel said:
I can't work out which to go for (Or the varients of each)
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bifday2k said:
Why not go for the newer E6300 PDC
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Hey Muel,

listen to bifday2k he knows his stuff! :D

There is no good reason apart from saving £5.00 to go for an E5200/E5300 etc when you could pick up an Intel® Pentium® Dual Core E6300, it's my fave LGA775 chip at the moment, gives you standard 2.8GHz (10.5x266) speed, DDR2-1066 support out the box and they overclock extremely well . . .

IMHO it's the only LGA775 chip worth buying new! :cool:

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I too say go for the E6300 PDC processor, I bought one instead of reusing my PDC E5200. The E6300 is a better processor, and only costs around £54

Edit, The only C2D worth buying is the £33 C2D E3200 stock at 2.4Ghz with 1Mb of Cache and an 800Mhz FSB, aparently a good overclocker and anther one to think about?

Edit 2, What motherboard are you using, may be worth checking which BIOS will support the chosen chip also?
 
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Thanks a lot for the help everyone, if it was for me, I'd go straight for the E6300, but it's not really needed, the computers for my brother/mother, and they're only mild users apart from my brother likes to play a few games, so an E5300 @ 3.6ghz would be ample I'd imagine?

The board will be an ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2, one of these: http://www.asrock.com/MB/overview.asp?Model=4CoreDual-SATA2

I've heard mixed reviews, but I already have a spare brand new AGP card I can use up in it, and a set of IDE optical and hard drives, and I paid £27 including postage for it, so it'll do! Also allows for an upgrade to a PCI-E card if they decide it's needed.

I just bought 2gb of PC2-5300 ram to go with it aswell, so that's that sorted. Just have to find an E6300 that's in my budget!

There is another reason for going for an E5300, I'm guessing this board won't be an amazing overclocker, so I'm not planning on pushing any chip very far. An E5200 or E5300 at 3.6ghz will be more than powerful enough.

Also, there are more E5300s second hand than E6300s. I've found one E6300 second hand for £55 inc postage, and new I've found one for £60 inc VAT and postage, whereas I've seen E5300s second hand for £30 inc postage.

I had thought about the E3200, but decided I wanted at least 2mb of cache for this build, they are very good overclockers those chips, but I reckon that a 1mb cache instead of 2mb will create a bottleneck.
 
Muel said:
I've seen E5300s second hand for £30 inc postage.
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Sounds great and is a perfectly logical choice, also buying used hardware is a slight eco move as the carbon debt lays with the original owner! :)

£30-£40 on a used E5XXX chip is a good move but if buying new has to be the PDC E6300 on the LGA775 platform!

Let us know how you get on! :cool:
 
I'm planning on doing a build thread, probably something like, "How to get a fairly decent build for £100". :P


If I can't find an E5300 for £30-35, I'll bite the bullet and buy the E6300. If it was a better board I would anyway, just so I could have a go at some serious overclocking. :D

EDIT: I'm already thinking of doing another... Something like, "4ghz for £75". :D (These involve recycling an old 478 machine by the way, most people are giving them away now for free).
 
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Muel said:
I just bought 2gb of PC2-5300 ram to go with it aswell
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Muel said:
I could have a go at some serious overclocking
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We have to consider that your memory offically runs at 333MHz which kinda means your gonna be limited to approx FSB of 333MHz . . . that in turns means your gonna need a chip with a higher Multi to clock its nads off, PDC E6300 has a 10.5 multi x 333Mhz-FSB = 3496MHz
 
Damn, i hate locked multis... :(

If I can be bothered to do this again, I'll look into higher end boards. If I were to build a rig using a PC2-6400 motherboard and ram, that'd give me a max FSB of 400mhz right? In that case a PDC E6300 whould max out at 4.2ghz.
 
I may well do, but I'm more interested in recycling stuff you can get for free on a limited budget, and all the places that give me free computers are on intel!

I went for AMD when I built the computer in my sig, just wish I'd read the news and waited for the 125w 965 :(

Ah well, all the more reason to upgrade to a 6 core when they come out...

EDIT: Just found out that the E5300 uses a multiplier of 13, so for this project it would prove a better overclocker than the E6300, because I wouldn't have to push the FSB so far... (I think anyway). An E5300 in this setup will max out at 4.3ghz! (Not sure I'll trust this motherboard at that though).
 
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i've been very happy with my CPU only reason i would upgrade would be for I5 750 to try get to 4.2Ghz honestly this chips very powerful for the price and such a good overclocker i can tell it's a 45nm chip because it does preform so well.
 
My board can underclock the RAM i.e. set its divider lower than normal while keeping the FSB higher and using the highest CPU multi available will clock your CPU more than its rated speed. I was under the impression that it was a standard feature.
 
I have the Asrock 4coredual Sata2 motherboard with an Intel E5200.

The motherboard is limited in it's overclocking. With an E5200 the maximum I got was 3.3Ghz stable using Corsair XMS Pro PC3500L (2x1Gb) with only 2.81Ghz stable with Corsair XMS PC6500C5 (2x2GB).

I also had to update the Bios to utilise more than 2Gb of ram, regardless of OS it will only recognise 3.25Ghz.
You may also have to update the Bios to use an E6300, I originally bought an E7300 and had to return this as my Bios was not suitable, so I got the E5200 as the E5300 diidn't offer any more in my opinion.

The PCI-E slots are limited, my graphics performance with a Sapphire HD4870 1GB Toxic Edition PCI-E card was not much better that what I got from my HIS IceQ Turbo 3850 AGP card. Though more drivers seem available.

If you google Asrock 4coredual Sata2 you should find a certain forum with plenty of tips spanning two different threads on getting the best out of the motherboard.
 
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