Oh jesus go and drown you thick plank.
Gordon Brown attacks public sector pay
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Oh jesus go and drown you thick plank.
The Roman Republic and Empire controlled the price of salt, increasing it to raise money for wars, or lowering it to be sure that the poorest citizens could easily afford this important part of the diet.
I think the vast majority of public sector workers know EXACTLY how screwed up this country is both financially and morally given that its on the news 24/7 and the fact that the majority (if not all) public departments have had memos/releases detailing cost cutting and efficiency reviews as well as redundancies.
Just because you dont get to read about it on your daily newspaper trawl of the net doesnt mean its not happening.... Effectively, and not unusually, your arguments and "facts" (and I use this term loosely) are wholly incomplete and flawed....
I look forward to a reasoned retort which is more than your usual politician's 2 line "sound-bite"
I pay taxes, have a mortgage, a family, have worked since I was 16 full time, for the first 7 years in a private firm. So yeah I think I know how screwed up the country is and here's the shocker - it wasn't the public sector that caused it.
Who are these little people?
No you dont the bond markets are knife edge away of a worldwide collapse. look how many sovereign defaults there are, and theres more to come.
this leverage could destroy everyone.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/business/economy/08fed.html?_r=2&ref=business
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I am not saying it was the only cause, but it did have a part to play.
my money's on call center.
I doubt you're at an equivalent level to have any say in sacking me, but seriously, give up the epeen.I can see this going in circles with youI'd have sacked you before you walked in my office
What you're missing is whatever lowly level of middle management your are at work - here you're going to have to form a legible and constructive argument without talking internal jargon.
Congratulations, you've changed the wording of what I posted to suit your own assertion. "Quite a few" and "a lot" are very different.
Sounds like I hit a sore spot though. Union rep by any chance?
Good. The deficit needs to be reduced and lowered salaries that are deemed to be exuberant is a good idea, in my opinion. I sincerely hope that Darling follows through with the talks on taxing the banker's bonuses as well.
I'm sure these people will be able to survive on £150,000.
I'm sure these people will be able to survive on £150,000.
eh? So if I was back in private sector I'd magically be more aware of things than I am now? Does not make sense.
If anything I'm far more aware sat in my public bubble than I would have been sat in my private bubble
Which was caused by the US government demanding that banks underwrite daft mortgages to people who could never afford them. That's only my understanding of the basics, doubt it's even vaguely accurate but it's more accurate than a sweeping generalisation that public sector workers don't have a clue how hard up private sector workers are!
We're faced with providing the same level of healthcare for less each year, other than ditching staff (and the garbage ones will be the last to go) that's not easy to do.
I doubt you're at an equivalent level to have any say in sacking me, but seriously, give up the epeen.
What you're missing is whatever lowly level of middle management your are at work - here you're going to have to form a legible and constructive argument without talking internal jargon.
Congratulations, you've changed the wording of what I posted to suit your own assertion. "Quite a few" and "a lot" are very different.
Sounds like I hit a sore spot though. Union rep by any chance?
No I was, but I quit the union because its crap.
I just don't like false statements.
I have changed no wording at all in your posts I quoted.
Go back and have a read.
I very much doubt you know my grade either, it was meant as a joke dunder heid.
To be fair you could post that elephants fly and it would be a more accurate statement than half of the stuff he posts
The US isnt only to blame, the UK had a part in it, now you need to start looking sovereign states, Dubai, Ukraine, Greece, NK , Portugal etc... they are all in trouble.
IMF ECB etc.. cant bail them out.
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You changed my words "quite a few" and replaced it with "a lot" in your assertion which I quoted, which is not what I posted.I have changed no wording at all in your posts I quoted.
I just smile sometimes when I hear ppl saying things like "I pay your wages" etc.... They seem to think that Public Service workers dont pay tax/NI 
They, like matttheman, are quick to jump on this but seem to forget that VAST sums of money used for illigitimate benefit claimers or junkie scum claiming a methadone script for their 20th year running (20 years on methadone is a FACT and not an exaggeration).
They, like matttheman, are quick to jump on this but seem to forget that VAST sums of money used for illigitimate benefit claimers or junkie scum claiming a methadone script for their 20th year running (20 years on methadone is a FACT and not an exaggeration).
"There are quite a few free loaders dotted around the public sector - from my experience they are usually union reps - IE untouchable."
"Having previously worked producing staff performance figures I think I have a fair idea of who works hardest and who doesn't. But I'd rather not go into any detail thanks.
I can only speak from my experience though. As I said, the vast majority work very hard. "
I really don't think I did.
LOOK again.
I can see this going in circles with you
No I really thought you would know what I'm going on about as that is how my department deals with performance figures (pacesetter/lean), does it really matter that you didn't know or understand? No, and it wasn't jargon to sound clever. I don't need to do that you see.
No what you said was this:
"There are quite a few free loaders dotted around the public sector - from my experience they are usually union reps - IE untouchable."
"Having previously worked producing staff performance figures I think I have a fair idea of who works hardest and who doesn't. But I'd rather not go into any detail thanks.
I can only speak from my experience though. As I said, the vast majority work very hard. "
So a lot are freeloaders, and then they work very hard?
Did you pay a lot of attention to your work Bug?
Where did I change any word at all?
Your on drugs mate.
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