why can't i sell my windows 7 ultimate

_Jimlad_ · 11 Dec 2009 at 11:34

I did some training and was lucky enough to get a win7 ultimate edition, it comes in a plastic sleeve, aposed to the retail box (not the party pack one) having all three of my rigs running win7 pro i had no need for it and listed on ebay,

2 days later ebay remove it and ban me for 1 week... (a little harsh i think)

yes the disc says not for resale, but surely if i entered a raffle (as i did at the training) and won it i have the right to sell it? can MS legally stop you for selling something?

can i give someone a a present and write 'not for resell' and then make ebay remove it ?

grrrrr

SteveOBHave · 11 Dec 2009 at 11:40

_Jimlad_ said:
I did some training and was lucky enough to get a win7 ultimate edition, it comes in a plastic sleeve, aposed to the retail box (not the party pack one) having all three of my rigs running win7 pro i had no need for it and listed on ebay,

2 days later ebay remove it and ban me for 1 week... (a little harsh i think)

yes the disc says not for resale, but surely if i entered a raffle (as i did at the training) and won it i have the right to sell it? can MS legally stop you for selling something?

can i give someone a a present and write 'not for resell' and then make ebay remove it ?

grrrrr

I think the clue is in the 'Not for Resale' bit... it's not rocket science.

mmj_uk · 11 Dec 2009 at 11:49

What it basically boils down to is corporate greed, it's just the way of the world in these times.

They have more money to spend on lawyers than you do.

namnoc · 11 Dec 2009 at 11:55

Well they were given out free, so greed doesn't have a lot to do with it. If you object to not being able to resell it you can always send it back to MS and get what you paid for it back

_Jimlad_ · 11 Dec 2009 at 12:03

SteveOBHave said:
I think the clue is in the 'Not for Resale' bit... it's not rocket science.

another useless post from you.....

some people just accept everything they are told, keep their head down and follow the line,

that is clearly you

mmj_uk said:
What it basically boils down to is corporate greed, it's just the way of the world in these times.

They have more money to spend on lawyers than you do.

true

it just bugs me, if they give it to you or you obtain it legally you *should* have the right to do whatever you want with it.

div0 · 11 Dec 2009 at 12:15

_Jimlad_ said:
it just bugs me, if they give it to you or you obtain it legally you *should* have the right to do whatever you want with it.

Possibly not, if they only gave you it on the condition that it can't be resold.

I can't claim to know how the law would actually interpret such a restriction on an item, but I don't personally see how you can be too annoyed at not being able to sell something which you received for free.

_Jimlad_ · 11 Dec 2009 at 12:20

div0 said:
Possibly not, if they only gave you it on the condition that it can't be resold.

I can't claim to know how the law would actually interpret such a restriction on an item, but I don't personally see how you can be too annoyed at not being able to sell something which you received for free.

i do understand that, when i entered the raffle it was not mentioned it just said 'free copy of win7 ultimate'

it just bugs me that they are allowed to print that on the package and for that reason i can't sell it on ebay or ocuk for example, i have no need for it, but also aware of the retail value.

tatts · 11 Dec 2009 at 12:35

_Jimlad_ said:
but also aware of the retail value.

It's not a retail copy so it cant have a retail price

I agree with you though, why they make it impossible for you to sell it is just stupid.

div0 · 11 Dec 2009 at 12:36

_Jimlad_ said:
i do understand that, when i entered the raffle it was not mentioned it just said 'free copy of win7 ultimate'

it just bugs me that they are allowed to print that on the package and for that reason i can't sell it on ebay or ocuk for example, i have no need for it, but also aware of the retail value.

Obviously, if it was me, then I'd prefer to be able to sell it too

But I can kind of understand why they wouldn't necessarily want people selling copies that they've given away for free.

Guest2 · 11 Dec 2009 at 14:06

I might get my ipod engraved with 'Not for resale' that way if it gets nicked no one will be able to sell it! ha ha

m4cc45 · 11 Dec 2009 at 14:18

Why not simply install that version on your rig and then sell the version it replaces?

M.

SiriusB · 11 Dec 2009 at 14:30

m4cc45 said:
Why not simply install that version on your rig and then sell the version it replaces?

M.

Assuming for the moment one of his other installs is Retail, he has the issue of it already been opened and used.

I wouldn't go within 15 miles of a copy of Windows on eBay, nevermind one that had already been used.

MikeHunt79 · 11 Dec 2009 at 14:31

m4cc45 said:
Why not simply install that version on your rig and then sell the version it replaces?

M.

This is what I would do

craptakular · 11 Dec 2009 at 14:33

Why not sell one of your retail copies and you install the one you won in a raffle. simples

toon_mad · 11 Dec 2009 at 15:01

would you be able to sell it in MM, not sure on the rules for items like that but might be worth asking a mod and sell it there?

rhysduck · 11 Dec 2009 at 15:35

Why dont you put it back in a raffle?
You paid nothing for it so complain when you try to make on it?

Ill have it you dont want it?

stoofa · 11 Dec 2009 at 15:51

This is a quite amazing thread.
An item given away as "Not for resale" and the OP is moaning because he can't resell it.
I've got a Windows Vista and Office 2007 copy here which says "For Educational Use Only" on.
So by your logic I should be able to do with this what I like?

You won a free copy of Windows 7.
It wasn't OEM, it wasn't retail, it wasn't educational it wasn't VLK (each of which have their own and very different license agreement).
It was a special "Not for resale" version - which funnily enough you can't resell.

Fully agree with SteveOBHave's post - it really is simple.

Xtrema · 11 Dec 2009 at 15:57

_Jimlad_ said:
it just bugs me, if they give it to you or you obtain it legally you *should* have the right to do whatever you want with it.

You can't sell it because you don't own the software. You simply have the right to use it.

suarve · 11 Dec 2009 at 16:01

_Jimlad_ said:
another useless post from you.....

some people just accept everything they are told, keep their head down and follow the line,

I agree with him. It's not hard to figure out really.

Surprisingly, the phrase 'not for resale' means 'not for resale'. :eek:

Matteysan · 11 Dec 2009 at 16:34

Just give it me hahaha