Modern car hate club

[Biohazard]

I wasn't talking about starts. wheel slip is key there. which drivechain in particular you are talking about is also very important.

Once you have a small amount of momentum and traction the gear selected is irrelevent. Pulling through the rev range in 1st is no different to the others.

 

[Thomas. PLease.]

See, you fools think you're going to blow up your modern cars overnight if you give them some stick. So much for old cars being old and weak

I'll rag mine in any gear any time. Have to tighten some stuff up from time to time but look what I can do that you can't

Yay, I also like to lol at people who think their car will automatically blow up if they rev it past 4000rpm.

 

[Jonnycoupe]

These 'guys' are right btw. there is no difference between gunning it on gears.

I also join the club.

Anything after the output shafts sees the extra torque from a multiplier, first line in that is the diff and diff bearings, also has to contend with taking up lash in the drivetrain.

 

[Vigoro]

Oh does my car count as an old car, i have no abs, no airbags, no PAS, no rev counter, and the car would fold up on itself should i choose to hit a wall

 

[Biohazard]

Anything after the output shafts sees the extra torque from a multiplier, first line in that is the diff and diff bearings, also has to contend with taking up lash in the drivetrain.

And bang goes circlip.

whoopsie-doo.

pop it back in.

 

[theNude]

does my 1990 mx5 count? it has electric windows and power steering though

Also flooring it from a stand still did ruin my brand new clutch after the release baring exploded into pieces and also when drifting i was pulling off hard in 1st then banging it into 2nd and third without lifting and it destroyed my gearbox after 5 hours of harrassment

 

[loltim]

There's no fun in flooring it in first.

incorrect!

 

[Dr Who]

That's the first time I've heard someone describes the 205's fuel injection as reliable!

Dr WHo: That's a great example, rare to see a standard one these days

Thanks Mike, its not really stock tho, not where it matters

 

[Cosimo]

My name is Jeremy and i like large isolated cars of all ages including modern ones.

Jeremy is my twin brother and we share the same likes.

 

[rypt]

The problem with modern cars is the weight and the size
It's silly how cars have moved up a size category over the years, the old Civic was the size of the current Jazz for instance almost.

 

[[TW]Fox]

I just drove 180 miles yesterday in a modern car in the cold and foggy conditions and remained comfortable, refined and relaxed throughout. This sucks.

I would have much preffered to do the same drive in a 15 year old Fiesta with no AC and steamed up windows. Much more real.

 

[rypt]

I just drove 180 miles yesterday in a modern car in the cold and foggy conditions and remained comfortable, refined and relaxed throughout. This sucks.

I would have much preffered to do the same drive in a 15 year old Fiesta with no AC and steamed up windows. Much more real.

My '92 Celica, which is more than 15 years old now, drives just fine in the cold and foggy conditions, the demister works, the AC works, the seats are FAR more comfortable than most modern cars and I was also very relaxed.

The only thing is that my radio is broke atm, but that is my own doing

 

[Thomas. PLease.]

I just drove 180 miles yesterday in a modern car in the cold and foggy conditions and remained comfortable, refined and relaxed throughout. This sucks.

I would have much preffered to do the same drive in a 15 year old Fiesta with no AC and steamed up windows. Much more real.

hypothetically, which would you prefer to thrash around a trackday, or have a b road session in. Given the fiesta isn't a very good example, lets replace that with a 205 gti say.

 

[[TW]Fox]

My '92 Celica, which is more than 15 years old now, drives just fine in the cold and foggy conditions, the demister works, the AC works, the seats are FAR more comfortable than most modern cars and I was also very relaxed.

I would imagine it drives much the same on long distance runs as our old FTO.

As in, nothing like as well.

 

[iaind]

hypothetically, which would you prefer to thrash around a trackday, or have a b road session in. Given the fiesta isn't a very good example, lets replace that with a 205 gti say.

The 205 is obviously going to be more fun, but how much time does the average person spend thrashing a car around a track, compared to commuting to work on a drizzly morning at 8am

 

[Lopéz]

I think it largely depends on what sort of driving you do. If I had to do a 180 mile motorway drive I'd rather do it in my old Mondeo than the Manta. It's quieter, warmer, "easier" and will use less fuel. Things like steering feel and rawness don't come into a 180 mile trundle up the motorway.

But I don't do very much driving like that so it's not something I have to think about. Most of my journeys are short and involve backroads, small lanes, corners.....

 

[Lopéz]

The 205 is obviously going to be more fun, but how much time does the average person spend thrashing a car around a track, compared to commuting to work on a drizzly morning at 8am

My drizzly commute is the best part of my day

 

[rypt]

Um, it is pretty damn comfortable and to me feels like a good GT, it is certainly more comfortable than most modern mid-range hatchbacks (Golf, Corolla/Auris, Civic).
I suppose when you get into BMW 3 and 5 series territory they might start to get more comfortable than this 17 year old car.

 

[[TW]Fox]

hypothetically, which would you prefer to thrash around a trackday, or have a b road session in. Given the fiesta isn't a very good example, lets replace that with a 205 gti say.

Not sure. Probably the 205 though I'd love to take my car on a track. Thing is how much of your driving is on a track and how much is sitting in traffic on the A52?

 

[Thomas. PLease.]

The 205 is obviously going to be more fun, but how much time does the average person spend thrashing a car around a track, compared to commuting to work on a drizzly morning at 8am

yeh your point is exactly right, the average person won't. Which is why they will continue to drive they're modern cars, regardless.

Its the people who aren't perhaps your average drivers, that miss the steering feel and feedback, working the gearbox, keeping the engine on the boil, as well the feeling of really being part of proceedings so to speak, that an older car gives. Nearly all modern cars cannot replicate this.