MOD over spent

Maybe because we are, maybe not as many as before but we still have guys over there.

no we dont - the only people left were people training iraq armed forces, we pulled out ages ago, though were recently called back but sat on the border and then came back without going in to resume training anyway - their military will crumble from what Iv heard, ill disciplined and stubborn.
The only thing we have to do with Iraq is the Navy patrolling oil rigs offshore.
 
no we dont - the only people left were people training iraq armed forces, we pulled out ages ago, though were recently called back but sat on the border and then came back without going in to resume training anyway - their military will crumble from what Iv heard, ill disciplined and stubborn.
The only thing we have to do with Iraq is the Navy patrolling oil rigs offshore.

I thought there were still hundreds of officers in Baghdad who are helping direct the training programme, plus you mention about the Navy being there, so we do still have people in Iraq.
 
ok perhaps I wasnt being too accurate.
We're not actually on land as a fighting force, the fighting force is offshore and its not a substantial one, its not going to be leaving the oil rigs anytime soon.

The officers in baghdad is something im not aware of, take whats in the media with a pinch of salt, its not comparable to a frontline deployment in terms of manpower and budget as far as iraq is concerned now anyway.
 
ok perhaps I wasnt being too accurate.
We're not actually on land as a fighting force, the fighting force is offshore and its not a substantial one, its not going to be leaving the oil rigs anytime soon.

The officers in baghdad is something im not aware of, take whats in the media with a pinch of salt, its not comparable to a frontline deployment in terms of manpower and budget as far as iraq is concerned now anyway.

No of course, but where do you think the money is coming from to train , kit and mobilise this Iraqi army?
 
Unfortunately, the average Muslim in Iraq won't differentiate between British combat troops and British non-combat forces. He'll correctly conclude that they all look the same when they're burning in the aftermath of a car bomb.
 
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:confused: All the AVERAGE Muslims I have ever met are fine. It's the lunatics that bother me but thanks for the insult, you stupid ****

He's just taken another meaning to your post above. When reading the post is does read as though you are saying the average muslim is a lunatic. Although I knew thats not what you meant it's kinda how it reads :)
 
Same. I'd have interpreted it the way Efour2 did as well - average Muslim = lunatic. Sounds like that wasn't what you intended.

I say 'sounds like' because of the past reputation of these threads to descend into Muslim bashing.

PS - Nix, you really do need to check your figures. ;)
 
Saying the MoD is being starved of funds is stupid, no matter how much money we spend on it they will always overspend, if they don't their budget would be cut back. The MoD, like the NHS, is a black hole, you could throw as much money as you like at it and there will always be problems.
 
I thought there were still hundreds of officers in Baghdad who are helping direct the training programme, plus you mention about the Navy being there, so we do still have people in Iraq.
They're there in a training capacity. I.e. non-combat role.

Saying the MoD is being starved of funds is stupid, no matter how much money we spend on it they will always overspend, if they don't their budget would be cut back. The MoD, like the NHS, is a black hole, you could throw as much money as you like at it and there will always be problems.
Yes, but the military budget is still tiny. The Scottish government get more when you factor in all their perks and extras.
 
Civilians dont realise how much the MOD waste money, they are overcharged by private firms for pretty much everything - I would like to see how much the MoD are charged for stationary.

The prices they pay for DII computer terminals are frankly a ****ing joke, its scandelous.

My pet hate is that the RAF are still paying core meal prices upfront, getting gucci steaks and what not, lovely food, whereas the navy & army are fed utter ****, and to top it all off certain RAF mess' have subsidised alchohol.
They'll spit there dummys out if we ever make it to an equal tri-service.

All public sectors are overcharged, in the prison service they spend £120 per month on each computer, paid to EDS, I mean £120 a month for some POS dell running XP is a joke
 
Saying the MoD is being starved of funds is stupid, no matter how much money we spend on it they will always overspend, if they don't their budget would be cut back. The MoD, like the NHS, is a black hole, you could throw as much money as you like at it and there will always be problems.

I agree somewhat although I do think spending on our defence budget should be double what it is now. I'm biased though eh.

They're there in a training capacity. I.e. non-combat role.

:confused: er thanks for reiterating my post there and pointing out that training isn't actually combat, it's good you cleared that up for me :p
 
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