World a better place without religion?

The secular world is only just getting to grips with homosexuality, so I hardly think religion can be blamed for mistreatment of gays.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. I think that if you went right back to the roots of prejudice against homosexuality, you would find it spawned from religion. Also, don't forget that secular society has only existed in any real way for the past fifty years or so, and in countries like America, it still doesn't exist.
 
its true...this is why i dont beleive it

As far as I am aware the Old Testament doesn't mention the birthdate of Christ primarily because, other than in prophecy, he isn't in it. The New Testament doesn't give any dates either. So as neither give a date how can they be different?
 
It all depends on what substitute we found to replace religion with. I don't think the world would be any better or worse as its people who create religion and people would just find other things to fight over.
 
yes it would be...religion was designed along time ago to Brainwash and control the masses,its also an excuse to cause wars to keep the population down ie:control the masses

It's funny, this is usually a statement, word for word, said by those who have been ingrained to believe that it's true without putting any actual thought in to it.


People fight over land, does that then make land a terrible thing? Let's ban land so people can't fight over it!
 
yes, but it would have to be replaced with something else - say, a form of intellectual enlightenment that uses logic and reason to understand the human condition, rather than one based on fear and control. In a way you could say that religion in highly educated societies is already making the transition to something more sensible and less childish.
 
I wish we did not have any religion in the world. It would be a far more peaceful world then. Its because of religion we have had countless wars in the past and even the current war in Afghanistan (although thats partly to do with oil as well but that another matter ;))

Thats why I'm a Atheist :)
 
I wish we did not have any religion in the world. It would be a far more peaceful world then. Its because of religion we have had countless wars in the past and even the current war in Afghanistan (although thats partly to do with oil as well but that another matter ;))

Thats why I'm a Atheist :)

As has been said umpteen times, religion is always just the convenient excuse for the land grabs and whatnot that are actually going on.
 
I wish we did not have any religion in the world. It would be a far more peaceful world then. Its because of religion we have had countless wars in the past and even the current war in Afghanistan (although thats partly to do with oil as well but that another matter ;))

Thats why I'm a Atheist :)

Spoken like a true man of faith :)
 
I'm sorry, but I disagree. I think that if you went right back to the roots of prejudice against homosexuality, you would find it spawned from religion. Also, don't forget that secular society has only existed in any real way for the past fifty years or so, and in countries like America, it still doesn't exist.

Except homophobes like Nick Griffin get on fine without the aid of religion to backup their bigotry.

If anyone thinks the world would be better without religion, then tell me how the BNP has one million supporters from our 'secular' society?
 
Except homophobes like Nick Griffin get on fine without the aid of religion to backup their bigotry.

If anyone thinks the world would be better without religion, then tell me how the BNP has one million supporters from our 'secular' society?
Every time I've ever heard Nick Griffin take the floor, he's always spoken about how evil Islam is, and how immigrants need to respect the fact that we're a Christian nation. A lot of Nick Griffin's prejudices and hatred are spawned from religion.

However, I think you're missing the point, somewhat. No one here believes that the world would be perfect without religion, of course there will be people that hold similar beliefs to Griffin with, or without religion. The question was whether the world would be better, and I believe it would.
 
yes it would be...religion was designed along time ago to Brainwash and control the masses,its also an excuse to cause wars to keep the population down ie:control the masses

Relatively modern religion may very well have been concieved in part for that purpose, but evidence of religious activity has been found to date back many many (even tens of ) thousands of years long before the Abrahamic religions existed.
 
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