Doctor Who Christmas Special Part 1

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Aruffell said:
I didnt think that it was too bad, though i do agree that why does the master have the ability to fly and throw lightning bolts but the doctor can't?

Also, what is with mr bond (timothy dalton) spitting sooooo much, and what happened to Gallifrey and all of it's survivors dying? Surely they could have helped a long time ago, pansies lol

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If you watch the trailer for the next episode on the Dr Who website you'll see that the time lords won't be helping from what I can see. Look to be the bad guys.
 
I was almost expecting the daleks to come through that gateway when they mentioned a veil opening or a line something similar to that, also the doctor asking the master to "team up" with him also made it seem likely.

I don't get why they build the daleks up so much then kill them off, you had the massive fleet that was vaporised by billie piper, then you had the new dalek empire last year that also lasted about 10 seconds. Why build them up so much only for the inevitable to happen every time? Could they not find a way for them to be a threat lurking in the background instead of killing them off in almost every episode they appear in?

I suppose they are sort of in the background with that episode where thousands of them were sucked into the void, i suppose that could play a role eventualy despite it being "sealed permanently".
 
It was alright, nothing special to be honest. I'm just looking forward to the regeneration, finally, sick of seeing Tennant as the Doctor now. This new guy looks like he's going be bringing some of the classic series with him, St. John's Ambulance TARDIS sticker like the one Hartnell's Doctor had, costume like something from 60's Who (Hartnell/Troughton style) and the logo is very 60's reminiscent. Looks promising considering I'm a massive fan of classic Who and generally dislike the new series and have only seen the odd few episodes.
 
Just watched the trailer for part 2 on the doctor who website, certainly looks darker than the first part. I'd rather have a semi serious plot involving the timelords than some weird alien (i.e. Peter Kay, sex gas anyone?)
 
I was quite disappointed :(

The start was the worst though, I could not believe I was watching a major BBC1 production, it was awful! The plot made less sense than usual as well, I was most unhappy, good job I had shiny timelords to entertain me and some turkish delight to eat or I would have been very unhappy :mad:

However, I am of course going to watch the second part, it is Dr Who after all, and only smelly poos don't watch Dr Who at Christmas :)
 
i watch ed the fisrt 10 mins and after the running around a building site for 10 minutes i thought this is bs so fell asleep tbh

woke up 10s to go and rember seeing loads of gays in blonde wigs thought i had died and gone to rainham


its preet y **** to be fair girls. ill watch it on catch up again to make sure.

they ahve all been crap tho that guy was by far the best dr who since tom baker and maybee sylvester mcoy tho i was probbably spankign the monkey to ACE or whatever her name was

Dr Fail
 
Bleh, underwhelming and annoying, Waters of Mars was much better.


Oh and wtf is with them casting crappy female actors as evil people? ITS GETTING DULL.
 
Aruffell said:
I didnt think that it was too bad, though i do agree that why does the master have the ability to fly and throw lightning bolts but the doctor can't?

Also, what is with mr bond (timothy dalton) spitting sooooo much, and what happened to Gallifrey and all of it's survivors dying? Surely they could have helped a long time ago, pansies lol

Andy
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The Master isn't a normal Time Lord - iirc he's done various things with his body in the past to try and get additional regenerations which may have changed him.
It's also worth noting that the Doctor did say he was burning up his life force at the moment, due to his botched attempt at resurrection/regeneration (again!), and given that the Timelords have been hinted at having other abilities in the past that may be obtained via technological/other means (additional regenerations granted via the Eye of Harmony onGallifrey from memory*, and i vaguely remember one of the other Timelords having some odd ability, not to mention their ability to sense when another is near which hints at rudimentary ESP at the minimum).
I would guess that it'll turn out that the Master is using up his life energy to to what he's doing, due to the effects of that botched regeneration triggering something, possibly like someone on meths, it might also explain part of the reason he's so hungry all the time if his metabolism has been altered (the Doctor didn't seem too surprised to see him doing those things, which may be meant to indicate something similar has been known to happen, or it may just be lazy writing - but it's looking like some of the story may have been planned from the First Season).
It's also worth noting that since the restart it's also been shown that Time Lords don't just Regenerate and that's it, they potentially have some of whatever energy is used for that left over after a normal regeneration for a short while (the hand regrowing), which if that energy is being misused/doesn't stop being available could be quite impressive, if rather unhealthy for the subject.


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If you watch the trailer for the next episode on the Dr Who website you'll see that the time lords won't be helping from what I can see. Look to be the bad guys.
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The other time lords have often iirc been at best indifferent to the Doctor, at worst actively against him as he is/was a renegade (useful to them at times, but don't forget he breaks a lot of their rules on a regular basis, and from memory stole the TARDIS).


The interesting thing for me, is that it's possibly doing something similar to what I predicted right back when the Daleks came back, when Rose gained the powers from the heart of the Tardis - that there is some link between the individual time lords, their TARDIS machines, and Gallifrey (possibly some method intended to allow for them to survive if any single tardis/timelord combo survive), as the TARDIS units are powered from the same primary source that gives Gallifrey it's power, and the Time Lords some of their abilities/additional regenerations.
So for the TARDIS to keep running without an additional power source (which was the subject of at least one previous story, yet it's not been mentioned once since the restart that it's using that - indeed the heart of the tardis was in the TV movie at least), somehow it's kept that link to it's primary power source - the Eye of Harmony which is/was on or near Gallifrey (I can't remember if it was just accessed via Gallifrey):)

My guess is, it'll turn out that they didn't all die out, but at least some (the planet?) went into hiding (possibly inside the any TARDIS they thought would survive, in a pocket dimension in addition to the normal TARDIS one?**) but something went wrong and they couldn't get out/got stuck in a moment of time for them until something the Master has done restored it/got it working again (the planetary healing device triggered something that picked up on a large amount of time lord life signs?).

Of course, it is late and i am rambling :p


*One of the old stories was about the Master attempting to use that to get more regeneratios.

**Now there is something that could get complicated :D
 
Roger Delgado was the best Master, and Anthony Ainley wasn't bad either, John Simm however...:mad: :(

I think they should do a spin-off or something where we see the Time War happening, Paul McGann back as the Doctor of course, and a proper regeneration into Eccleston. Would be pretty awesome.
 
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d3moliti0n said:
Roger Delgado was the best Master, and Anthony Ainley wasn't bad either, John Simm however...:mad: :(

I think they should do a spin-off or something where we see the Time War happening, Paul McGann back as the Doctor of course, and a proper regeneration into Eccleston. Would be pretty awesome.
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I quite liked Eccleston tbh its a shame that he left the series, i think he gave a darker feel to the doctor than tennant has.

As i said before i'd rather see a semi serious plot with things like the timelords so seeing more of the time war happening would definitely be on my want list for the new doctor who.
 
this ep was ok, it will really depend on part 2 to see if it all comes together, but on it own i think the waters of mars was a lot better.
 
I had to sit and endure this awful waste of time and money...even the family members who are into Dr Who wondered what was going on.
Dreadful acting, non-existent storyline (ie..making it up as they went along), and characters that had fallen straight out of a CBeebies show....
 
d3moliti0n said:
Roger Delgado was the best Master, and Anthony Ainley wasn't bad either, John Simm however...:mad: :(

I think they should do a spin-off or something where we see the Time War happening, Paul McGann back as the Doctor of course, and a proper regeneration into Eccleston. Would be pretty awesome.
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A spin off film (proper film not just extended tv feature) of the time war with the right characters would be epic!

As for yesterdays episode, it was ok but nothing special (and very odd in some places), hopefully the the second part will sort that out though, it looks like it could be very epic.
 
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