a lot of game devs see the second hand games market just as bad as piracy because someone else is making a profit which isnt passed back to them.
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a lot of game devs see the second hand games market just as bad as piracy because someone else is making a profit which isnt passed back to them.
Looking at the PC top 5 there, I have none of those games, neither bought nor downloaded but in years gone by I'll admit I did download.
I did buy a few games that I could afford but I was young and poor and to be honest it just didn't feel 'wrong'. Almost seemed 'cool' that you could download them for free.
It's no excuse and I certainly feel guilty about doing in the past.
I did buy a few games that I could afford but I was young and poor and to be honest it just didn't feel 'wrong'. Almost seemed 'cool' that you could download them for free.
It's no excuse and I certainly feel guilty about doing in the past.
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Indeed it's harder than some crimes to directly see the victim.
But you can't complain one bit that places like GAME only designate 1 small shelf to PC gaming now, and relatively few PC games come out .. after all, pirates caused the collapse ...
Pity, coz I love PC gaming ...
But you can't complain one bit that places like GAME only designate 1 small shelf to PC gaming now, and relatively few PC games come out .. after all, pirates caused the collapse ...
Pity, coz I love PC gaming ...
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...after all, pirates caused the collapse ...
That's just opinion. There are many other factors to consider.
And no, these figures are by no means 'proof' of that opinion.
My local game has a section beside the counter with the top 40 PC games then a free standing shelf that runs the entire length of the store chocka block with with their 2 for £15, 2 for £20, 2for £30 etc games. Must just depend on where you live.
Gamestation here did pull back to a single section for PC games but recently expanded it again as they were no longer covering demand.
Like people getting sick and tired of spending money on upgrading PC parts every few months, so one game can perform or look just as good as the console version.
To be fair that doesn't happen any more as every game is either a console port (or at least designed with consoles in mind, thereby limiting its graphical prowess) or a casual game atm
. The last game to make a big requirements leap was Crysis (November 2007!), since then nothing has been more demanding bar maybe GTAIV but i'd say it's pretty much on the same level. Put it this way: If you had hardware that could play Crysis well when it was released, you've had hardware capable of playing every game since then too. That's over 2 years without the need to upgrade, hardly frequent.
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Indeed it's harder than some crimes to directly see the victim.
But you can't complain one bit that places like GAME only designate 1 small shelf to PC gaming now, and relatively few PC games come out .. after all, pirates caused the collapse ...
Pity, coz I love PC gaming ...
GAME deserve no pity. After the monopolising ****e that was the Dragon Age UK release Bioware and EA should be thankful they have my money at all. Restricting the Digital Edition content in the UK and gimping the CE in store.
I got my Steam DDE, great game, then went and downloaded a set of DLC items. I've already got the main DLC stuff, i just got the rest of the items that i should've got in the first place. If anyones the thief here its the game industry for ripping off the UK customer.
Jumping through hoops is getting ridiculous. DA came with a different pre-order item depending on where you bought it, different deals if you were in the UK, unclear instructions on what the game actually contained.
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Exactly!
To all the 'sanctimonious self-righteously' who will buy whatever will be marketed at them for any price all say "Baaaaahh" like the good little sheep walking into the capitalists culling machine.
To the all the game copying pirates who wont ever pay for a game no matter the price then all say "Arghhhhh me hearty" and shame on you.
Look, there will always be blind consumers along with thieving pirates, what really needs to happen to get the middle majority to make a stance against the negatives in the industry. Namely don't allow publishers to reap the profits unjustly after churning out a weak game missing key features for an extortionate price.
I think a good lot of us here have refused to buy COD:MW2 at release due to IW.net abomination. The only way to show publishers as to who is boss is with consumer power so we can then decide what is best for a game and how much is a fair and just price.
The industry really is run by executive idiots who think DRM will reduce pirating. I now buy a game and then have to find a hack so i can play with out a DVD!! Steam is the way forward along with perhaps development houses having there own distribution setups. Cutting out the money grubbing middle man publishers should help reduce costs.
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I agree that it is expensive. I don’t think lowering prices are going to solve piracy simply because people can’t be bothered to start paying for something they have had for free, even if it is half price of what it is now. Maybe the people that are using piracy as a way of trying to push prices down but the kiddies who won’t get enough allowance to buy all the games they want? Nah
Of course it is about price. Do you honestly think for a second that if people could download a legitimate copy of a new release game directly to their Harddrive for £1.97 the number of pirated games wouldn't drop significantly?
Steam has the potential to slash piracy but they are completely missing the point of Direct to Drive downloads. Take NFS Shift as an example since it made it onto the list. In my opinion it was absolutely dreadful, but for £2 I'd have given it a pop anyway, but for the £29.99 that they want for it on Steam they can go and whistle. And it gets better, the Steam download is actually more expensive that a physical copy I could buy from the shops. How can they justify charging MORE for a digital copy than a physical copy?
Another great example is the Batman game you speak of. £1.97 you say... how much is it now? £20.09. How on earth can they justify charging £1.97 for a product one day they and then charging more than TEN TIMES more less than a week down the line?
How about looking at piracy in the same light as borrowing from a friend, i mean how many of you borrow games from a friend "just to see if you'll like it" play it a few days then decide not to spend the £30 or £40 because you dont like it.
From the list I've downloaded COD and Prototype. Prototype lasted about 20 minutes as it was rubbish. COD about 6 hours to do the single player as I wasn't paying £40 for such a short game and broken multiplayer. Strangely enough I download quite a lot of games, and get this, buy the good ones.
From my steam list ones that I've found that actually deserve my money this year include Empire Total war, Football manager 2010, World of goo, Braid, Mirrors edge and Grid (both on cheap steam deals).
From my steam list ones that I've found that actually deserve my money this year include Empire Total war, Football manager 2010, World of goo, Braid, Mirrors edge and Grid (both on cheap steam deals).
If it's called piracy and piracy is piracy, and theft is theft, why do you feel the need to cross them?
According to your logic, is theft also piracy? Or does it only work one way?
Hey, let's treat all cases of assault as attempted murder!
Yeah, I enjoyed MW2 single player, slap in the face with the lack of dedi server support in MP - what a joke.
Played all the others except Sims3, which is clearly pap anyway
trhat analogy only works if the "pikes" went into the shop stood there and made exact duplicates of the cigs and put them back on the shelf.
exactly,
If only IW included Dedi in MW2, the 4 million number would be around 800K or less.