Doctor Who Christmas Special Part 1

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Over on the Doctor Who forums people are getting their hopes up that Paul McGann will make a suprise appearance as the 8th Doctor. It's probably highly unlikely but people seem to think it could happen.
 
I'm not a fan of 'Doctor Who' so i am automatically biased. However...

Yes it was shocking. It was a complete mess as Pigeon said. I hate their style of writing and this was the icing on the cake. It tried so hard to be 'out there' and 'different' and 'complicated' to make the viewer think that they were smart for 'working it out'. This show is best suited for the 4pm slot on CBBC.
 
I liked that, Tennant giving it beans in his final play of the role. He showed more of his actual talent after "the story" had finished though.

Simm does do a good mad man. :)
 
Just think, thank god we've got rid of Davies at last. The guy is terrible. Just a shame that Moffat won't get to have Tennant as his doctor :(
 
Complete pants. The only good bit was the nice re-visit of his old friends including a nice Star Wars'esq bar. Not too sure about this high school kid replacement either.
 
So what happend to the master then? He didn't seem to follow the timelords into the light but when that segment was over he had just vanished. :confused:

As for Matt Smith, that guy freaks me out, is it me or do his features seem madly exagerrated?

And as usual this was a big storyline that just had a really abrupt ending, same thing they do with the daleks time and time agai, somethings built up over the course of an episode and a half and then its killed off within 5 minutes...Would have been interesting to see the next series focus on the time war and have "evil" timelords running about but nope, can't have that, think of the amount of half assed cg we'd have to use. :rolleyes:
 
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Gerard said:
So what happend to the master then? He didn't seem to follow the timelords into the light but when that segment was over he had just vanished. :confused:

As for Matt Smith, that guy freaks me out, is it me or do his features seem madly exagerrated?
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The master has been dieing ever since his resurrection was messed up by his wife.

I saw it as he used up the last of his life force pew-pewing the president which killed him.
 
I didn't think it was that bad, compared to the first part it had allot more to keep you entertained, some parts were rediculously stupid/obvious.

-That was a long way to 'fall' from a spaceship. Timelord bones must be made of some hard stuff considering he was standing after it.
-The cactus's were just annoying.
-As soon as Bernad Cribbins entered that chamber you knew the doctor was going to have to sacrifice himself to get him out.
-Did the doctor call the lord president Rassilon? Is the doctor who canon, is he not dead?
- I thought the drumbeats was a bit of an anti climax tbh. I was expecting something more, i would have liked to have seen more of the timelords tbh.

Some annoying unexplained things like who was that old woman? Did the doctor recognise her? What happened to The Master in the end? He just...dissapeared into a big hole in the plot? Or did he get locked back in with the Time War?

Looking forward to seeing how Matt Smith pans out, not seen anything he's been in before so it should be something new. After watching that trailer for Season 5 i get the impresison they're trying to make doctor who a bit 'cooler'.
 
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The master has been dieing ever since his resurrection was messed up by his wife.

I saw it as he used up the last of his life force pew-pewing the president which killed him.
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Yeah but you never actually see him die or dissappear into the light, he just randomly vanishes from what i seen.

That was a really weak storyline i thought, the timelords were on earth which would suggest theyre out of the "timelock" so why the hell would destroying a machine send them back to something that they've escaped? It almost make it sound like theyre strapped to a massive bungee cord or something.

I really don't get what was going on in some segments, it was established in past series that the timelords were dead and they all burned along with the daleks, but this made it sound more like they just got sealed inside some ever lasting battle with the daleks. :confused:

Take you to have a bloody phd in sci fi techno babble as it seems any established storyline can be radically changed by "flipping switch number 3".
 
Is this a comedy? Part two was absurdly bad.

Lets have something really terrible happen then oh noes lets undoe it completely 30 seconds later. But before that using their ultimate powers they will undoe what the master did, but they cant stop themselves from being thrown back, they were out how can they just go back in like that(answer because the writers wanted them to).

Also before that they ripped of the matrix. Why do they keep having these absurd world destroying stories with no internal logic or consistency. If they can make a planet appear out of nowhere, and overwrite then undo the overwrite just like that, then you know anything ridiculous can happen and no events have any meaning. Even some of the worst science fiction have limits and some logic.

Whom will the Dr shoot?, why cant he make up his mind?

Its not even filmed right, in the spaceship they just decided to wobble the camera around randomnly for no real reason, they werent getting hit. Then they film the turrets from the outside, from an unfeasible angle so it looks like your watching two guys in a fair ground ride or arcade. Just the effects of the cgi ship flying over the sea dodging the missiles and then he jumps out, but first he acts really angry.

The ending was cringyly shchmatzingly bad, like self flagellation. Just the acting, or overacting more like, the dialogue, they didnt just say that did they?, yep they did.

From the brief stint of the new doctor it doesnt bode well he had some of the same hyperactive, overacting as david tennant.
 
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Lets have something really terrible happen then oh noes lets undoe it completely 30 seconds later. But before that using their ultimate powers they will undoe what the master did, but they cant stop themselves from being thrown back, they were out how can they just go back in like that(answer because the writers wanted them to).

Also before that they ripped of the matrix. Why do they keep having these absurd world destroying stories with no internal logic or consistency. If they can make a planet appear out of nowhere, and overwrite then undo the overwrite just like that, then you know anything ridiculous can happen and no events have any meaning.
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Thats what really gets on my ****, its almost like the storylines COULD go somewhere but the budget for the show is too small to have anything more than a glimpse of all the stuff that makes the show somewhat interesting.

An episode and 3/4 hyping the timelords return and its all over in the blink of an eye. herp derp derp.
 
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Thats what really gets on my ****, its almost like the storylines COULD go somewhere but the budget for the show is too small to have anything more than a glimpse of all the stuff that makes the show somewhat interesting.

An episode and 3/4 hyping the timelords return and its all over in the blink of an eye. herp derp derp.
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Its not the budget, on occasions they do have some pretty good effects, and they have no problem in using mediocre ones. Its lack of imagination and ability. Some of the best moments in other science fiction films are the ones with the least amount of effects. The I am your father in star wars, the chase and speech at the end of blade runner.

They dont really need the effects to do some pretty awesome. The just have to follow through, let something happen, and quit with the hammy acting.

They could have had the ending as portracted battle with the timelords and the master, and have the timelords flee to some corner of the universe temporarily, it could have worked as a foreboding for future series.

I think a low budget usually is a good case when you have series like this, because then they have to keep it low key, personal, make the best of what they've got. Perhaps it is like they are trying to make this movie like epicness where a million darleks come down and destroy the world, but then half way through they realise thats stupid. Even then they could have done that on a lower budget just show them one at a time, all the effects need to do is show the idea of something.

They should focus on the people first(especially for tv) make it plausible dont make events so absurdly over the top its beyond any single(or several) characters abilities to solve without extra absurdity.
 
Shamikebab said:
Just think, thank god we've got rid of Davies at last. The guy is terrible. Just a shame that Moffat won't get to have Tennant as his doctor :(
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yea we get the idiot skip face who most people dont like whoever cast him should be shot please tell me it wasnt moffat?

i think this skip face idiot will be the death of dr who
 
arknor said:
yea we get the idiot skip face who most people dont like whoever cast him should be shot please tell me it wasnt moffat?

i think this skip face idiot will be the death of dr who
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I'm prepared to give him a chance, I've never seen him in anything before but I won't write him off without seeing him for a while first. I do worry that they're kiddifying it, especially after Sarah Jane Chronicles.
 
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