Can always cancel after the beta and get it on steam
yeah i may do that,ill see what others do first
Battlefield BC2 looking dam sweet
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yeah i may do that,ill see what others do first
yes demod the guy then engaged in some banter to keep him on while got relevant details like guide and stuff . funny thing was i said youll be on the mbl later he said no i wont
say in cod just type in /pb_power and you get everyones guides
then you can check them . certain details you need to be a admin to access.
also in mixes check server see if streaming . not streaming just dont play as nine times out of ten there hacking and have been waitinng for nabs to turn up to practice on
to be honest if the server you play on isnt streaming just dont play on it as theres no point cause it will be a hackfest. its suprising how many actually do stream live
as for screenshot blockers and like xray did not bad job but the program is a bit of a nabbish prog. did like the screenshot thing of though if its black its a hack
How do you check it's streaming? (haven't played a pb game in ages)
Also does someone have to look at the demo before he's added to the list or does it just add 100 and randomly check 10 or so ?
If each one has a real person at even balance looking at it then that's some damn impressive effort going on
Tefal mate, As someone who has had servers streaming to PsB for donkeys years, please let me clear a few things up for you on how it works
1. PB enabled servers can be made to stream their PB logs to a centralised repository (for this example its PunksBusted.com). The whole process is automated once your application has been accepted and the server side set up.
2. Once you are an accepted member of PsB you are provided with an ever growing list of known cheats which PB will look for as each player joins, this is in addition to the bog standard ones PB looks for. It is proved as a series of MD5 checks that is carried out on join.
3. If PB detects one of the MD5 checks or indeed one that PB knows about, it will kick said player and that info will be logged and eventually streamed to PsB for processing.
4. Undetectable cheats can be picked up via server admin revied PB screen shot captures, PsB encourages admins to capture random SS of each player and review them accordingly. Only unaltered PB SS can be submitted (each one is given a MD5 key by PB as its taken and this has to tally with the submitted SS, You cant fake them basically.
5. All submitted SS are posted for review by the streaming admin members of PsB, they will never ban a player unless its clear to everyone what's happening, some of the guys over there spend hours trying to recreate situations and if there is any doubt, the player is placed on a "watch list" for further analysis.
6. once added to the ban list, server admins auto update their ban list via software written by PsB, its painless.
Thats about it, its a rock solid system imho and it cant be abused by so called "noob" admins simply because the chaps running PsB are sensible adults and jolly good chaps to boot. certainly an server runner cant bypass the process and add who they want to the MBL. In addition to the above there is an appeal process, sometime PB (evenbalance) will make an error and kick for something that it should'nt but again without exception these are rectified in a matter of hours of PB rescinding the PB kick.
1. PB enabled servers can be made to stream their PB logs to a centralised repository (for this example its PunksBusted.com). The whole process is automated once your application has been accepted and the server side set up.
2. Once you are an accepted member of PsB you are provided with an ever growing list of known cheats which PB will look for as each player joins, this is in addition to the bog standard ones PB looks for. It is proved as a series of MD5 checks that is carried out on join.
3. If PB detects one of the MD5 checks or indeed one that PB knows about, it will kick said player and that info will be logged and eventually streamed to PsB for processing.
4. Undetectable cheats can be picked up via server admin revied PB screen shot captures, PsB encourages admins to capture random SS of each player and review them accordingly. Only unaltered PB SS can be submitted (each one is given a MD5 key by PB as its taken and this has to tally with the submitted SS, You cant fake them basically.
5. All submitted SS are posted for review by the streaming admin members of PsB, they will never ban a player unless its clear to everyone what's happening, some of the guys over there spend hours trying to recreate situations and if there is any doubt, the player is placed on a "watch list" for further analysis.
6. once added to the ban list, server admins auto update their ban list via software written by PsB, its painless.
Thats about it, its a rock solid system imho and it cant be abused by so called "noob" admins simply because the chaps running PsB are sensible adults and jolly good chaps to boot. certainly an server runner cant bypass the process and add who they want to the MBL. In addition to the above there is an appeal process, sometime PB (evenbalance) will make an error and kick for something that it should'nt but again without exception these are rectified in a matter of hours of PB rescinding the PB kick.
^^^^ nice explanation 
and yes they do look at each video case submitted
as i was just informed the guy i caught earlier has no been added to ban list he will be banned now from all pb servers and banned from the leagues he was in (funny as the clan hes in are top in two ladders ) he will need a new game aswell .
all from a demo taken few hrs ago. so a pretty sweet system really. better than vac.
and yes they do look at each video case submitted
as i was just informed the guy i caught earlier has no been added to ban list he will be banned now from all pb servers and banned from the leagues he was in (funny as the clan hes in are top in two ladders
) he will need a new game aswell .all from a demo taken few hrs ago. so a pretty sweet system really. better than vac.
You speak about the BF2 community as being something new or special, its pretty funny how naive a lot of players seemed to be after the years of cheating half of players would have seen on CS etc, did you lot never play anything before battlefield or something?
And i noticed a wierd claim in your post, Evenbalance shut down aload of hacking sites...?? how did they manage that? Source? Iv found an interview with their founder which states they dont waste time trying to shut sites down...
Every single one that I know of. Battlefield bad company 1 + 2 + 1943 for starters!
i did not play a lot of css as again its too 1 dimensional for me like MW2...as for shutting down hacking sites,what happened was Evenbalance sent so called "moles" in undercover that purchased a subscription,as soon as the hack was updated so was PB due to the hack be leaked by the moles,this carried on until certain sites eventually closed as subscribers were constantly gettting GUID bans,many more than once in 48 hrs,some got HW bans,many subscribers left the sites never to return as Evenbalance was all over them,soon the sites had no buisness and was shut down, www.msxsecurity.com was one of them,but i understand that had to re-open there site and reimburse people as lawsuits were taken out against them for adverstisng the hack as "undetected",when infact it was "detected",people lost a lot of money and complained only to be banned from there forums,this caused people to take legal advice against Daniel "Maz" Saltman,this is all i know as this was the news that lots of the BF2 community talked about a few years back,Nitro91 was also from MSX as i understand.
Edit.People were not naive as people believed PB was the ULTIMATE in anti cheat detection,when PB came out people thought hackers were well and truly finished,not so,wherea VAC is easily bypassed,thats why there are so many hackers on mw2 because some of the hacks made are public hacks which u can get for free and normally remain undetected for quite some time,public hacks are also available for bf2 but are normally detected within 24hrs and will earn you a swift GUID ban or worse,so most people buy private bf2 hacks as they remain undetected for longer
All my information about punkbuster i got from scouring the internet and talking to Stuart Dunsmore and Hendrick Thole,via webticket,EvenBalance,i also used to run my own 40 man server years ago and i had plenty of hassle with hackers
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Dont matter to me as i Pawn haxxors anyhow
You say its the MBLs that keep players out,well the players have to be caught first to get on the MBL list.(what catches them?Punkbuster or forced SS clearly showing hacks in operation) Duh
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Source on that?
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Sorry if this has been answered, but someone said they couldn't make their minds up whether to get the limited edition and miss out on the beta, or get the beta and miss out on the limited edition. Why not just pre order off EA Store? It's limited edition and beta accessible, and if you can use those coke tokens, you could get a bargain.
After applying my christmas voucher, i can get it for £29.58 off there.
After applying my christmas voucher, i can get it for £29.58 off there.
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Yeah that was me! Have you got the link for it, as I am looking at the EA store and they only appear to be offering the weapon upgrades?
Got me 20 Coke tokens to go as well
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Yeah that was me! Have you got the link for it, as I am looking at the EA store and they only appear to be offering the weapon upgrades?
Got me 20 Coke tokens to go as well
http://eastore.ea.com/store/eaemea/...etailsPage/ThemeID.850300/productID.165578400
