Accident

[panthro]

Unlucky, glad no one was injured.
I have a friend who owned a Supra TT bpu spec. He was driving down the IDR in Reading, accelerated to overtake another car and the back end just kicked out and sent him into the very high concrete wall.

 

[MikeHunt79]

Shame about the Supra, glad no one was hurt tho.

 

[Leeum]

Ouch, bit of a mess that. At least you made a proper job of it though.

Onward and upward mate, chalk it up to experience.

 

[MarkDavis]

Supra TT bpu spec. He was driving down the IDR in Reading, accelerated to overtake another car and the back end just kicked out and sent him into the very high concrete wall.

Normally happens when an inexperienced driver guns a twitchy 400bhp RWD car when not in a straight line.

 

[Hairy]

bloody hell mate, that's a pretty tasty shunt.

Glad all parties ok!

P.s what car next?

 

[sanaxe1]

P.s what car next?

Maybe another MPV?

 

[Durzel]

Shopping list on the doors. When did the original Fast & Furious film come out? 2001?

 

[panthro]

Normally happens when an inexperienced driver guns a twitchy 400bhp RWD car when not in a straight line.

Yeah, bit more tricky to do in a 323i. Plus it was in a straight line.

 

[MarkDavis]

Difficult to pull out and overtake someone if you're driving in a straight line. Overtaking normally involves turning the "steering wheel" and using the "accelerator" and a change of direction. Unless you think he has one of those 'Tron' cars where he can do instant 90 degree changes of direction without the law of physics applying.

 

[Nick1881]

Ouch, gutted for you.

My brother bumped his Supra after 1 week of owning it, came round an island in the wet, changed to 3rd and touched the throttle, back end spun out, hit the central reservation with the front and the back. Lucky for him no one else was around. The car was running some rubbish tyres from Japan, damage was fairly light, new bumpers and wheels and a wing and his is as good as new. The road where he crashed was so slippy you could hardly stand up on it.

Hope this works out ok for you.

 

[Dup]

Difficult to pull out and overtake someone if you're driving in a straight line. Overtaking normally involves turning the "steering wheel" and using the "accelerator" and a change of direction. Unless you think he has one of those 'Tron' cars where he can do instant 90 degree changes of direction without the law of physics applying.

You can accelerate before attempting to change direction. Check mirrors etc, accelerate, check again, manouvre, VTEC y0.

Ride a motorbike for 12 months and you can quickly learn how slippy and unforgiving our roads can be and how easy it is to make a mistake. At the end of the day though its your mistake. I can see how easy it could have been in this situation, especially with all the crap on the roads post snow and gritting etc.

 

[panthro]

Difficult to pull out and overtake someone if you're driving in a straight line. Overtaking normally involves turning the "steering wheel" and using the "accelerator" and a change of direction. Unless you think he has one of those 'Tron' cars where he can do instant 90 degree changes of direction without the law of physics applying.

Its called - accelerating to build up speed before making the overtaking manoeuvre on damp roads, with big turbo spool-up on a RWD car with no electronic driver aids.

 

[mjt]

i stand by my remark that 2nd at 40mph is unnecessary though. well at least on a dual carriageway, when you don't need to blast past traffic as quickly as possible.
or maybe i've been driving a diesel too long

 

[MikeHiow]

mjt, I've no idea of the Supras behaviour or gear ratios, and suspect you don't either, but is it possible that long gearing and turbo lag could mean that second was essential to perform a swift overtake.

 

[Matt82]

in my 2.0 na golf id only 2nd at 40 if i was planning to go for it. 3rd or any other gear would be fine

 

[Fr0dders]

40 ? id have been in fourth.

In a big turbo petrol that should still have more than enough torque to pull plenty hard enough in 4th.

 

[sigma]

Well it depends, 40 in second off boost isn't going to spin out, also it depends on how harsh you had been accelerating (obviously not that harsh if you're off boost).

 

[mjt]

but is it possible that long gearing and turbo lag could mean that second was essential to perform a swift overtake.

correct, however why would you want to perform a swift overtake on a residential dual carriageway?

 

[Matt82]

2nd gear 4krpm surely means it would have some boost (ive not read the whole thread but i imagine were talking about the supra?)

 

[MikeHiow]

in my 2.0 na golf id only 2nd at 40 if i was planning to go for it. 3rd or any other gear would be fine

Your Golf isn't geared fr nearly 160MPH in just five speeds though.

40 ? id have been in fourth.

In a big turbo petrol that should still have more than enough torque to pull plenty hard enough in 4th.

I don't have any experience driving a Supra, but I'm guessing things are very different from your old VXR for example, they are terrible for turbo lag, it may well be gutless off boost, thus the OP resorting to that torque multiplier we call gearing

correct, however why would you want to perform a swift overtake on a residential dual carriageway?

Perhaps the car in front was going to slow, traffic was a little heavy, he wanted to be swift about making the manoeuvre, I see nothing wrong with that on a two lane carriageway.