Air France to charge obese passengers for two seats

[izzy eckerslike]

Some posters pointing out that fat people sit between the armrests & therefore won't affect the person next to them?
What planes have they been on? even regular sized people start hogging both armrests if they're sat in the middle of a row so what chance have you got sitting next to a bloater?
Plus they are more likely to splay their feet out & encroach on your already cramped floorspace

 

[regulus]

I'm 113kg and if they dare charge me extra, I'm stripping off my shirt and start flexing muscle .I just hope they can distinguish between natural large and muscle weight, and soft flabby bubblegum weight. If not, I can see a few lawsuits being flung about.

 

[regulus]

Source?

A round of applause for the dumbest question asked this week.

*applaud*

 

[Glaucus]

No he was. He managed to squeeze is waist into the seat, but his upper body spilled onto my side. .

So I hope you are purposing all shoulder widths to be measured.

everyone shifts about. That is not a reason.

 

[Rotty]

A round of applause for the dumbest question asked this week.

*applaud*

Glad it wasn't just me that thought that then

 

[dr_volki]

I'm 113kg and if they dare charge me extra, I'm stripping off my shirt and start flexing muscle .I just hope they can distinguish between natural large and muscle weight, and soft flabby bubblegum weight. If not, I can see a few lawsuits being flung about.

weight is not a problem i think its just a problem when you're as wide as high you are

 

[Efour]

im 6 foot 6 and large, i used to fly 25+ times a year and i ****ing hated it,
loads of planes dont have raisable armrests, they have bucket seats. Sounds like most of your flights are easyjet types (airbus) i think

I used to fly bussiness class cos it is literally the only way i wont get DVT Iflew from Paris to London in a tracksuit in bussines class i felt like a right tramp tee hee.

Anyway ive spent my entirelife not enjoying public transport, small sporty cars.

I always did a lot of helicopter trips 2 and from oil rigs - thats all calculated by weight - i see no reason why other types of air travel should not be too.

you want a fair system - thats the answer

 

[Tefal]

I'm 113kg and if they dare charge me extra, I'm stripping off my shirt and start flexing muscle .I just hope they can distinguish between natural large and muscle weight, and soft flabby bubblegum weight. If not, I can see a few lawsuits being flung about.

what for?


"My weight is muscle so it defies the laws of physics" lawsuits?

 

[geekyEd]

DailyMail

I am personally in favour of it and am certain other air lines will be adopting this scheme.

A plane ticket should entitle you to 100kg including baggage and self.

100KG lol be realistic, I'm 6' 4" and weight 91KGs leaving 9KGs for clothing, bearing in mind all my clothing is larger and thus takes more space and is heavier.

I'm by no stretch of the imagination fat let alone obese.

 

[xJcBx]

I don't think it should be by weight, but by waist size, becase if you have a large enough waist to take up 2 seats, then some poor sod is having to get squished up, so thye complain and have to get given a seat, nobody can sit in this seat then.
The airline looses a seat, and if it's full somebody might have a very unplesant flight.
You should have to buy 2 seats if you need 2 seats, otherwise you shouldn't be allowed on the plane/be forced to buy another ticket.

 

[Efour]

and i think kids and skinny people should share seats so that more fat people can get on.

 

[meghatronic]

if you have a large enough waist to take up 2 seats, then some poor sod is having to get squished up.

Have you ever been on a plane?

 

[manic_man]

There's a difference between weighing machinery and luggage and putting a price on their haulage, and weighing a human being and putting a price on their haulage based solely on their weight. It all boils down to the difference between someone being coldly logical and actually being compassionate.

I'm a big guy, so clearly don't subscribe to the usual way of referring to people who are overweight (bloaters, puddings, lard buckets all the usual that is bantered around in this thread.) Neither do any of my friends, many of who are the exact opposite of the types of people this thread is referring to. Personally, fat or not, smoker or not, crack addict or not, I don't like being derogatory to somebody, even if I don't agree with how they live their life. Encouragement is always better than telling someone they suck...

That aside I fully understand peoples reaction to very large people on planes. I say I'm large, I'm 6ft 3 with a wide frame, but according to my BMI (bad measure I know) I'm not obese, middling overweight (and working on it). So I fit into airline seats with no real problems other than legroom, and don't "spill over".

To get somebody to stand on a set of scales, with their bag, and then charge them in a public place is nothing but cruel. Those of you who aren't overweight will say "well it's their fault", and while I agree, that doesn't mean everyone has a right to look down on these people. However, if an airline, while booking, offered someone the option to purchase two seats, with guidelines (i.e. if you are wider than X we suggest you purchase two seats for your flight or you may not be able to fly if a flight attendant deems that you should have), then that is fine and tbh should be encouraged.

 

[Madwelsh]

I think it is perfectly fair that people are charged by weight for their flight. It would be very simple to do, they have a floor scale you simply step on with your luggage, the fare is then calculated accordingly. I am 6 ft and weight near 100kgs, I have no problem paying for my ticket, mainly because I am intelligent enough to understand that the weight of the aircraft correlates to the fuel used. What really annoys me, is when a pair of 30 stone monsters check in in front of me, and then the airline wants to charge me extra because i'm 2kgs over the baggage limit. It takes the mick, I think a total weight system would be much fairer, yes women would have cheaper flights, but then they'd probably end up paying the same due to the clothes and shoes packed!

It's about time airlines made the ticketing system fair for all. The end of the day weight = fuel, so people who weigh more should pay more. The sooner this is implemented the better. As regards to people needing 2 seats, if you are that wide, then tough luck, nobody else should have to deal with someone squeezed into a seat to small for them. For a start it isn't very safe incase there is an evacuation etc imagine needing to get off a burning plane and some lard bucket can't get out their seat!

As a frequent flier, the whole weight issue has annoyed me massively for ages!! (Can you tell?)

Good post OP

 

[Freefaller]

He loves it

Maybe I do... maybe I don't... Sometimes you can be so mean!

Freefaller /waves at you.

*waves back* Hullo!

220LBS is nothing.

If you're big (do weight lifting for example) that is easy to reach. I'm about that weight (under it by about 10 pounds), do weight lifting (big framed anyway) and just over 6'1. Freefaller, Tummy, Tank and others would likely be (I don't want to say are) also in the same boat of 200LBS+.

Also, what happens if you're like 7 feet tall or something? Brock Lesnar (former WWE wrestler, now in the UFC) is well over 260 - 270 LBS a lot of the time, but is 6'3. I agree if your flab is over other peoples seats that's one thing, but going the weight route is a bit dicey.

I'm just shy of 6'1" and weigh around 220lbs or so. I wouldn't consider myself fat though (because I'm not).

I agree entirely with this, however it shouldn't be based on weight, it should based on space taken.

Though I suppose an argument can be placed that more weight = more fuel required, more costs etc... I guess if you get 50% of the plane where people plus their luggage exceeds 100kg by say 10kg, that might be 70 or so people? That's only 0.7Tonnes. Not exactly significant in terms of plane performance is it? Genuine question, I don't know.

Anyway, back to the point, if someone takes up 2 seats they should pay for 2 seats. I know of people taking cellos or double basses on board and pay for the seat to place it - seems sensible to me.

Weight however is irrelevant. I can sit in the aircraft seat fine, sure my shoulders stick out either side but I don't need the arm rests up at all.

It can work, but should be done by area/volume taken, not weight.

Bloody snobby Frogs. Oh.. wait...

 

[peetee]

LOL @ skinny people that have and will post in this thread. This is all.

skinny people and everyone else who can fit in the seats.. designed for the 'average' person.. which definately isnt skin.

Majority of obese people should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Glaucus]

Majority of obese people should be ashamed of themselves.

Why? how does it affect you?

Always so much prejudice in threads like this.

 

[Biohazard]

if they charge by weight I would imagine that they would leave themselves open to a sex discrimination accusations

How odd..

 

[Madwelsh]

Why? how does it affect you?

Always so much prejudice in threads like this.

Umm it affects all of us, obese people require much larger amounts of care, particularly after they reach their mid 30's. I don't agree with the ashamed part, but they certainly need to be re-educated on diet and exercise. The current trend of our kids being obese shows that in the next 50 years the average lifetime will actually plummet back down to what it was in the 1950's. I think the government should really force home the healthy eating message by taxing unhealthy foods, just like they tax cigs and alcohol.

 

[RDM]

I'm 113kg and if they dare charge me extra, I'm stripping off my shirt and start flexing muscle .I just hope they can distinguish between natural large and muscle weight, and soft flabby bubblegum weight. If not, I can see a few lawsuits being flung about.

What differenec would it make? Still takes the same amount of fuel to fly 113kg of muscle as it does 113kg of fat. So it weight based charging makes sense it shouldn't matter if you are fat or muscular.