No-one really seems to care about matching tyres here?

I'm so glad there's a large body of water separating me and Snowdog with his handbrake turn linglong antics.

Drive as carefully as you want but you'll never avoid a situation requiring harsh braking by driving like a granddad.
 
I disagree, there is no need to spend 80 a corner rather than 15 per corner at a scrappy/breakers yard

While I see nothing wrong with driving a cheap but properly maintained car with 4 different yet serviceable tyres on, as in not too dissimilar tread depth, and the same size on an axle. And I've no problem using a pair of worns if they are in good condition, as in you know where they came from. I think there are limits.

Getting your tyres from the scrappy is running a greater risk of a failure.
 
Slow/calm drivers do not at all need anywhere near the cornering ability of someone who rags his car about.

So nobody, EVER pulls out in front of someone in a normal car, or has their normal car put into a situation where they need to stop immediately, only performance cars have that happen.

Little kids only run out in front of Ferraris and wait at the side of the road if it's a Focus?

:rolleyes:
 
I'm so glad there's a large body of water separating me and Snowdog with his handbrake turn linglong antics.
You learn to read. Linglongs :confused:?
Drive as carefully as you want but you'll never avoid a situation requiring harsh braking by driving like a granddad.
So nobody, EVER pulls out in front of someone in a normal car, or has their normal car put into a situation where they need to stop immediately, only performance cars have that happen.

Little kids only run out in front of Ferraris and wait at the side of the road if it's a Focus?
I haven't said a thing about braking ? I was replying to the cornering bit fox posted...

Getting your tyres from the scrappy is running a greater risk of a failure.
Is it some form of different rubber ?
 
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I'm pretty sure it isn't.

Oh I think it is true, you are right in saying you don't 'need' to, but I am saying you should do, because you will get better performance from them, when you really need it. More with regards to stopping than starting and not aquaplaning etc.

People often disagree with me without reading exactly what I am saying, I am quite careful with words, so have another look.

I said it is always better to have decent quality matching tyres, than not to. How can anyone with a brain argue with that? ...cost is irrelevant, it's a statement of pure logical fact.

What I said about the cost difference not being huge is very much open to debate I know, what some consider a minor difference, others will not.

Speaking of which, 80 (euros or pounds) per corner is seriously cheap for a tyre. Well it is for the sort and size tyres I am used to buying.
 
i match at the axle as and when wear/condition dictate, the brands will likely end up matching when the fronts get changed (rears have already been done)

call me lazy if you wish, you are right tbh, i have just never seen the need as long as balance is maintained along the axle


they are replaced with new, if somewhat low end tyres, Federal branded ones ended up on the rear i believe, havent seen any particularly negative reviews on them, the garage also approves of them (make of that what you will though)
 
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I haven't said a thing about braking ? I was replying to the cornering bit...

My point still stands, it's all about grip, lack of it means you plow into the kid, or hedge when cornering, it's exactly the same principle. It's actually worse on a cheap car as people just assume it's a rubbish car so it won't crash on a corner (because it can't go fast enough), then they run out of grip and they wonder what happened.

Is it some form of different rubber ?

Considering scrapyard rubber has been used then left out in the elements for god knows how long without air or any use it could well be very bad rubber indeed.
 
Sure, because braking isn't important is it?

I'm speechless.

It is, obviously, but the effects are exaggerated by you guys I reckon, I have sat a in a car with 4 different tires making an emergency stop a few times, sure it could have braked harder on better tires perhaps, but the need was not there, I just can't imagine a situation where it would be unless you are behind someone's bumper, not paying attention and taking ages ( over 2-3 seconds) to respond to something, or driving too fast for the conditions.

As for the scrappy tires, they come from working cars, which haven't crashed using the exact same tires ?
Oh I think it is true, you are right in saying you don't 'need' to, but I am saying you should do, because you will get better performance from them, when you really need it. More with regards to stopping than starting and not aquaplaning etc.

People often disagree with me without reading exactly what I am saying, I am quite careful with words, so have another look.

I said it is always better to have decent quality matching tyres, than not to. How can anyone with a brain argue with that? ...cost is irrelevant, it's a statement of pure logical fact.

What I said about the cost difference not being huge is very much open to debate I know, what some consider a minor difference, others will not.

Speaking of which, 80 (euros or pounds) per corner is seriously cheap for a tyre. Well it is for the sort and size tyres I am used to buying.
Yes obviously, but it differs from person to person whether the price difference is worth the money.

I thought 80 was pretty expensive ( price for a new premium tire for my car after looking for the cheapest shop), after hagging at a local tire shop I got my Continental Sport contact for 50€ including fitting and balancing, 195/65 ( or 55) R15 H I think it is.



My point still stands, it's all about grip, lack of it means you plow into the kid, or hedge when cornering, it's exactly the same principle. It's actually worse on a cheap car as people just assume it's a rubbish car so it won't crash on a corner (because it can't go fast enough), then they run out of grip and they wonder what happened.
It hasn't happened to millions of people, what do you think people did in countries where there were few affordable tires ( say Poland in the early 70's), people NICKED steelies just for the tires, people drove on slicks for months before they could even remotely afford a new tire.

Sure it's important, but in my eyes you guys are much exaggerating the problems.

Considering scrapyard rubber has been used then left out in the elements for god knows how long without air or any use it could well be very bad rubber indeed.
Perhaps, why is it not illegal if it's SO dangerous then ?
 
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Me setting my own penis on fire isn't illegal, but it's pretty damn stupid. Just because it isn't illegal, doesn't mean it's safe.
 
Lots of things that are dangerous, or have the potential to be are not illegal.

But don't give the government any ideas about more things to ban though, mind you I wouldn't mind them refocusing their health and safety obsessed selves into areas where there are/maybe issues. Such as this one, I don't know for sure weather there is or not, but I bet they could do more good waving their clipboards at this than half the rubbish they do. Also the sale of deactivated guns that can quite easily (with the right knowledge and equipment) be reactivated and fire live ammo, etc …they could legislate on that too instead of going nuts about toy guns or airsoft replicas that never ever could fire real ammo. I digress tough, that’s got little to do with this thread.
 
To be honest, on a small bottom of range bland hatchback, mismatched tyres make very little difference unless you're trying to drive it on the edge all the time.

You forgetting the interesting weather we had the other week? It's not warm and dry 100% of the time.

My first car arrived with 4 non matching tyres and I had a nasty experience where it 360'd on a small patch of ice on a roundabout and ended up an inch from a armco barrier. It quickly went in and had the tyres sorted out.

Tyres are the only bit between you and the road. I wouldn't put cheap rubbish on, it's not worth my own or someone else's life.
 
No they shouldn't. It's completely impractical.

Say the F1 GSD2 on my left front punctures and can't be repaired. They don't make it anymore. Should I throw away the rest of the set? I think not. Stick a GSD3 on, it's close enough. Better match than a Wanli Ditchfinder.
 
Sorry, I seem to have a US spellcheker. If I type tyres it underlines it in red as if it's spelled wrong.

It won't be marked as wrong with a British English spell check either, since to tire is the process of becoming tired.

Tyre is the correct word for a black round thing though.
 
No they shouldn't. It's completely impractical.

Say the F1 GSD2 on my left front punctures and can't be repaired. They don't make it anymore. Should I throw away the rest of the set? I think not. Stick a GSD3 on, it's close enough. Better match than a Wanli Ditchfinder.

those in the know have a bit of artistic licence, like having a p6000 and a p7 on the same axel *IF* they both have equal tread.

The average dumbell who has a barely legal non-brand on one side and a brand new performance tyre on the other is asking for trouble.
 
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