What is this "encoding" people speak of?

mathwat · 26 Jan 2010 at 20:33

paradisiac said:
so an xbox will take the video off my camcorder, allow me to edit it and then burn it to a dvd in a lot quicker time than a dual core cpu? wow they have really improved in the last few hours since i last turned mine on

He's not got a clue what he's talking about..

paradisiac · 26 Jan 2010 at 20:36

mathwat said:
He's not got a clue what he's talking about..

sorry, just annoys me when people put down people for buying a system that is suited to their needs. i do a lot of work off video cameras, so being able to encode large edited video files is important to me, just because they can get away with a 775/i3/i5 system for their small amount of work doesnt mean everyone else wants to be sitting around waiting when they dont have to as their is hardware out there to do the job properly.

Orangey · 26 Jan 2010 at 20:45

paradisiac said:
so an xbox will take the video off my camcorder, allow me to edit it and then burn it to a dvd in a lot quicker time than a dual core cpu? wow they have really improved in the last few hours since i last turned mine on

I was responding to bells, there.

I'm allergic to the quote button.

Regardless of processor power, constantly converting and burning movies to DVD just to sit on the couch and watch them is pointless because the quality won't improve and as I said there are standalone players for dirt cheap. This isn't aimed at you or people who need a portable and cheap medium for storing home videos. Just felt like having a moan at the people who still mindlessly convert everything to DVD in the year 2010.

mathwat · 26 Jan 2010 at 20:59

paradisiac said:
sorry, just annoys me when people put down people for buying a system that is suited to their needs. i do a lot of work off video cameras, so being able to encode large edited video files is important to me, just because they can get away with a 775/i3/i5 system for their small amount of work doesnt mean everyone else wants to be sitting around waiting when they dont have to as their is hardware out there to do the job properly.

I agree, i won't but a i7 rig because i only decode a couple of films a week. My main use is playing games/surfing the net. So my next upgrade will be i3/i5/or amd p2.

eddyc · 26 Jan 2010 at 21:14

buttkinz said:
sorry for the thread hijack

does anyone have any recommendations for decent video converter software?? im a bit of a noob at it still and havent managed to get ati's rubbish avivo working at all, im looking to convert some on my avi/mpeg4/3gp files to dvd

meGUI is the best one I have found, after looking at a lot of different stuff. It even comes with presets for various devices, xbox, ipod etc (not that I recommend using them).

If you are watching the stuff on your computer you basically want anything that is a front end for x264 and which is at least relatively usable.

I have also found that handbrake is goodish although it does seem to have a lot of bugs which the response from the handbrake forum is always "yes thats a known bug..."

meGUI is the best though. What are you trying to do?

arknor · 26 Jan 2010 at 21:43

tipes said:
Possible warning - when I tried to download this my AV program flagged it as a trojan, so tread carefully. This may be a false positive but....

probably a false positive its a well known program thats been around for ages, its been recomended on the gadget show etc

malware bytes and kaspersky say its clean for me (just tested it)

arknor · 26 Jan 2010 at 21:45

Orangey said:
I was responding to bells, there.

I'm allergic to the quote button.

Regardless of processor power, constantly converting and burning movies to DVD just to sit on the couch and watch them is pointless because the quality won't improve and as I said there are standalone players for dirt cheap. This isn't aimed at you or people who need a portable and cheap medium for storing home videos. Just felt like having a moan at the people who still mindlessly convert everything to DVD in the year 2010.

i doubt anyone does since you can buy cheap dvd players that play xvid/divx and they have a USB port so you can put films on a usb stick and not bother wasting time on dvds

eddyc · 26 Jan 2010 at 22:03

arknor said:
i doubt anyone does since you can buy cheap dvd players that play xvid/divx and they have a USB port so you can put films on a usb stick and not bother wasting time on dvds

I literally know people who do do that. No idea why.

Optical media ought to be dead by now. Dont get me started on bluray...

tipes · 26 Jan 2010 at 22:42

arknor said:
probably a false positive its a well known program thats been around for ages, its been recomended on the gadget show etc

malware bytes and kaspersky say its clean for me (just tested it)

Cheers for the response. I will try to download again.

Mark

Th3D0n · 26 Jan 2010 at 22:59

buttkinz said:
sorry for the thread hijack

does anyone have any recommendations for decent video converter software?? im a bit of a noob at it still and havent managed to get ati's rubbish avivo working at all, im looking to convert some on my avi/mpeg4/3gp files to dvd

AVS Video Converter 6

buttkinz · 27 Jan 2010 at 00:44

eddyc said:
meGUI is the best one I have found, after looking at a lot of different stuff. It even comes with presets for various devices, xbox, ipod etc (not that I recommend using them).

If you are watching the stuff on your computer you basically want anything that is a front end for x264 and which is at least relatively usable.

I have also found that handbrake is goodish although it does seem to have a lot of bugs which the response from the handbrake forum is always "yes thats a known bug..."

meGUI is the best though. What are you trying to do?

iv got some japanese films without subtitles i encode from dvd, add the subtitles and am trying to write them back to dvd, the problem i have is finding a simple gui program that will keep the aspect ratios for my television, all of my re-encodes to dvd end up with either a tiny letterbox or zoomed in so far i lose half the screen

like i said im still a noob at this stuff, cheers for all the suggestions guys, il give it a go tomorow with some of the software

eddyc · 27 Jan 2010 at 01:18

buttkinz said:
iv got some japanese films without subtitles i encode from dvd, add the subtitles and am trying to write them back to dvd, the problem i have is finding a simple gui program that will keep the aspect ratios for my television, all of my re-encodes to dvd end up with either a tiny letterbox or zoomed in so far i lose half the screen like i said im still a noob at this stuff, cheers for all the suggestions guys, il give it a go tomorow with some of the software

I have never tried to encode back to dvd. Interesting problem. Let us know how it goes.

Rroff · 27 Jan 2010 at 02:33

For me one set of "encoding" I do regularly is video game map compiles - which vary engine to engine in complexity and what kinda processing is required to take the map from the editor into the engine - but in almost all cases they are fully threadable and scale almost linearly performance wise with extra cores. When I'm working on a map at regular intervals I like to test or preview certain aspects ingame - often even a rough compile can take 15 minutes on a fast quad core - which is around 30 minutes on a dual so it saves quite a bit of waiting around.

Although for final compiles I do tend to just chuck it on an old box and leave it over night.

Although with newer engines its much quicker to take the map from the editor to preview ingame so its not as big an issue as it once was.

jbloggs · 27 Jan 2010 at 10:37

recommendations for decent video converter software

Also have a look in the Video/DVD Editing/Encoding/Video Streaming Tools section...

Bossk128 · 27 Jan 2010 at 11:10

eddyc said:
I literally know people who do do that. No idea why.

Optical media ought to be dead by now. Dont get me started on bluray...

My network is too slow to stream BluRay.

eddyc · 27 Jan 2010 at 12:37

Bossk128 said:
My network is too slow to stream BluRay.

I just meant that a different storage medium would probably be better than optical. No moving parts scratchable disk etc.

buttkinz · 27 Jan 2010 at 12:42

that avs video converter has worked a treat

cheers for recommending it, great for people to easily convert haha

w1lliam · 27 Jan 2010 at 20:41

If you have the latest cards from ati/nvidia, why dont you use them to transcode files to dvd?

Or is this not the done thing?

Bossk128 · 27 Jan 2010 at 22:17

w1lliam said:
If you have the latest cards from ati/nvidia, why dont you use them to transcode files to dvd?

Or is this not the done thing?

I'd love to do this. Do you know of software where I can use my 4870 to transcode AVC/VC1 to .264 into .MKV? My dual core takes 12 hours

buttkinz · 28 Jan 2010 at 01:08

w1lliam said:
If you have the latest cards from ati/nvidia, why dont you use them to transcode files to dvd?

Or is this not the done thing?

avivo seems useless to me :/ no options and its pot luck if you avtually get video and audio. on the upside the phenom took my 1.4gig avi and made it into a lovely dvd in 8 mins

well impressed