New 27-inch UltraSharp U2711 WQHD announced.

Well, according to that review, the input lag whilst gaming is noticeable on this screen and so they recommend the Dell 3008WFP 30" instead if wanting a screen for gaming.

It's a shame really because I was interested in this screen for gaming and HD/Blu-Ray movie viewing.
 
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not only the input lag, the resolution display switching can take up to 15secs to change!!!!111one

my CRT takes a long time to switch, for example, i never see the post screen when i reboot, the first time i see the screen (other than black) is when i see the RAID boot.
 
Will this monitor be good for gaming or would it be a waste of money spending £700 on this monitor? I want a 27" monitor but want a good panel.
 
i'm worried about the switching time on it. image this: you start a game for the first time that is a differnet res from your desktop, it takes 15secs to change to the game res, you'll have missed half the start.
 
Well, according to that review, the input lag whilst gaming is noticeable on this screen and so they recommend the Dell 3008WFP 30" instead if wanting a screen for gaming.

It's a shame really because I was interested in this screen for gaming and HD/Blu-Ray movie viewing.

No they didn't recommend the 3008WFP for gaming :rolleyes:. They said the 27" has more input lag then 30" LCD's without scalars.

"The result is slightly more processing lag than what we've measured on 30" IPS displays that don't have a hardware scaler"

The only recent 30" Dell LCD wihout a scalar was the 3007. The 3008WFP they mentioned actually has a scalar to deal with resolution changes and it's input lag is fairly considerable and this has been commented on in a few reviews on the web. Some people don't notice lag though. I have a 3008 and I notice input lag on fast FPS's.

Also bare in mind they only measured 15ms input lag on the 27" which is very very good. Comparable to the U24" in game mode. I don't know why they are saying the 27" has 15ms more input lag then other LCD's they have measured. That graph looks like total input lag measurement. Also the 3008WFP as measured on other sites is in excess of 35ms so doesn't even compare.

http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=3725&p=4
 
I don't know why they are saying the 27" has 15ms more input lag then other LCD's they have measured.

As a reminder, the reference HP LP3065 is one of the best LCDs we currently possess in terms of not having display lag. (The lack of a built-in scaler probably has something to do with this.) While we know some of you would like us to compare performance to a CRT, few users have CRTs these days and all we're really interested in measuring is the relative lag. It's possible we will find an LCD that ends up with a negative result, meaning it's faster than the LP3065, but the best we have managed so far is a tie.

Also note that the Benq E2400HD is showing no lag on the chart.;)
 
Yeah, but I've never heard of LCD's with zero input lag. So if the BenQ and HP are indeed zero and the Dell is 15ms slower, it still makes the Dell 15ms in total. And 15ms is still pretty good for gaming, certainly better than the 2408 or 3008 or possibly even the 2407.
 
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I was just pointing out why they were stating that the 2711 has 15ms more input lag than other LCD's they've tested (which judging by your previous post you missed).
 
No I have not missed anythng.

They are saying it has 15ms more lag then other screens they have tested. What other screens are those ? The screens in the chart ? What is the baseline ? They show a graph of the Dell with 15ms input lag or 15ms more input lag compared to something else. So it looks like the basline screen they are comparing it to (whch I assume is the HP one) had 0ms lag (not possible I think), as had the BenQ, 0ms lag - which means the Dell has 15ms more lag than these which is stll 15ms total lag. I was pointing out 15ms is pretty good if in fact that is all the lag it has. Certainly better than most including the 3008 which is 35ms plus.
 
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As I understand it, they're calculating the lag by sending a signal to both a "fast" reference LCD monitor and the one under test, and looking at the difference in time to respond.

So "0ms" doesn't really mean 0ms, it means 0ms slower than the reference LCD.

If you find another site that reviews response times, you should be able to calculate the speed of the reference LCD and get an absolute time for the 2711.
 
For an Anandtech review I'm surprised it was so bad. No wonder they're asking for new writers to cover areas like this. Not only does the reviewer try to measure the input lag against other LCD's (something which, due to the variable nature of measuring LCD lag, is never such a good idea) he also shows he doesn't have a full grasp on things like wide gamut issues, and doesn't even know what to look for when people talk about the anti-glare coating etc.

His lag measurements are against an HP LP3065. So when he says that the U2711, in Game Mode, has a lag which is 17ms he means 17ms above the LP3065. IE The real lag is 17ms + the LP3065's lag time. If you could find someone who has a CRT to measure the LP3065 against, and knows how to measure properly, you might actually get some idea. Based on the other LCD's of that size/generation it's probably somewhere around 8ms, so the likely input lag on the U2711 would be more like 25ms, or a 1 and a half frame average. That compares with 2/3rds of a frame (11-12ms) average on the U2410.

Given this, whilst the U2711 isn't as bad as the previous generation of Dells, if the average really is as high as a frame and a half @ 60Hz then I think people would be rather charitable if they said it was good for gaming. It's probably not bad enough to notice anything, so it'd be good enough for local/casual gaming. But a frame and a half is a decent sized handicap if you're talking about being competitive in fast FPS'ers online.

As said by some others, I'd also be worried about LG's quality control on these screens. But the real question is, at such a high price, you'd have to wonder if many wouldn't just rather stretch the extra mile for a 30 inch..
 
Some food for thought there. Thanks.

Incidentally, I think the U2410 which I found good for gaming before I bought a 3008, is around 16ms according to Behardware. My 3008 defnitely has noticeable lag.
 
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