Alexander McQueen dies, 40

malc30 said:
I have No sympathy for Anybody that commits Suicide , I only feel Sorry for those that are left behind wondering like I was when my Fave relative killed herself. :mad:
On top of that I'd Never wear any of his designs as they were Gash.
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Completely agree.

You need to be incredibly selfish to take your own life.
 
lozzick said:
RIP

I really don't mean to be direspectfull, but why has it made such big news etc? He's a fashion designer and i've never ever heard of him before :confused: ???
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This ^

I saw this in the paper and read famous fashion designer then thought who ??? :confused: he's gotta be gay...and he is lol

Fashion is for women and the gays, not worthy of the news imo

MW
 
malc30 said:
I have No sympathy for Anybody that commits Suicide , I only feel Sorry for those that are left behind wondering like I was when my Fave relative killed herself. :mad:
On top of that I'd Never wear any of his designs as they were Gash.
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Agree entirely.

Another who had no idea who he was prior to yesterday.


RIP anyway.
 
Nimzicki said:
If somebody ignored and derided the entire works of ACDC after they all copped it because they didn't know who they were, you would be miffed too :) I'm not a fashion freak, it's just a case of credit where it's due.
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When Kingdom Come denied all knowledge of Led Zeppelin when they made their first album I just laughed and ACDC were first referred to as a poor mans Status Quo when they first came over here.
I certainly wouldn't be miffed.
 
Moley said:
...or care frankly. I really don't give a monkey what over-hyped dress maker "designs" the clothes I purchase or wear. Yes I went through a phase when it mattered to me that I was only seen in Armani Jeans, FCUK or Firetrap but now I've grown up I realise just how unimportant designs are.

I have smart business suits for work.

I have casual jeans and t-shirts for home.

I have warm clothes for the winter.

I have cooler clothing for the summer.

The designer of them is totally irrelevant to me - all I care about is the clothes do their job, which is to keep me warm, dry, comfortable and smart when called for.
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And? Good for you, for many, many others it does matter. What you are completely missing is that while very, very few people actually care or would buy the catwalk stuff, almost everything you buy on the highstreet, including suits, sportswear, your warm clothes and cool clothes as you like to put it has been filtered down from what's happening on the catwalks. Whether you like it or not, if you buy anything from the standard highstreet stores such as Topman, River Island etc. then his work will have some influence on them.
 
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Diesel said:
Pretty sure people were wearing stuff with skulls before this McQueen fellow came along?
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Yes of course, there isn't much that is genuinely new anymore but the current popularity of the constant use of the skull motif as a pattern on scarves, bags etc. is a result of McQueen.
 
Nimzicki said:
And? Good for you, for many, many others it does matter. What you are completely missing is that while very, very few people actually care or would buy the catwalk stuff, almost everything you buy on the highstreet, including suits, sportswear, your warm clothes and cool clothes as you like to put it has been filtered down from what's happening on the catwalks. Whether you like it or not, if you buy anything from the standard highstreet stores such as Topman, River Island etc. then his work will have some influence on them.
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I didn't miss that at all and was well aware of that fact thankyouverymuch.

The point is it's irrelevant to me and the vast majority of people just who makes our clothes so long as they are fit for purpose. The fact that there has been so much fuss around the death of a dressmaker just goes to show how over hyped and self-important the fashion industry is.
 
Nimzicki said:
And? Good for you, for many, many others it does matter. What you are completely missing is that while very, very few people actually care or would buy the catwalk stuff, almost everything you buy on the highstreet, including suits, sportswear, your warm clothes and cool clothes as you like to put it has been filtered down from what's happening on the catwalks. Whether you like it or not, if you buy anything from the standard highstreet stores such as Topman, River Island etc. then his work will have some influence on them.
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True for shops like Topman and River Island, but tell me how Mr McQueen has influenced the jeans I have just bought from Next?
 
Do you honestly think Next is any different? It isn't. They all work from the same look books and trends of the season.

The point is it's irrelevant to me and the vast majority of people just who makes our clothes so long as they are fit for purpose. The fact that there has been so much fuss around the death of a dressmaker just goes to show how over hyped and self-important the fashion industry is
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I never said it should be relevant to you, you don't care and that's fine. What I'm saying is that it's a bit silly to ignore a mans life work which HAS influenced many, many people just because you don't know or care who he is. You seem to think that because you don't care, nobody else should. It's hardly loads of hype anyway, it's a couple of news stories on the BBC website, it's not like OCUK has been closed down in tribute :rolleyes:
 
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Basher said:
The jeans I have just bought from Next, have not been influenced by Alexander McQueen.
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Did I, at any point, say that everything on the High Street has? No. What I said was that his influence can be seen in many places on the high street, there's a difference, stop being deliberately obtuse.
 
Nimzicki said:
Did I, at any point, say that everything on the High Street has? No. What I said was that his influence can be seen in many places on the high street, there's a difference, stop being deliberately obtuse.
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You didn't anwer my question the first time so I thought I'd make it clearer.

I'm not convinced just how much of his original work, like many fasion designers has made it as far down to the mass consumer.
 
Basher said:
You didn't anwer my question the first time so I thought I'd make it clearer.

I'm not convinced just how much of his original work, like many fasion designers has made it as far down to the mass consumer.
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His exact work isn't in the high street stores no, the mass consumer buys items that have been influenced by the work of him, and other designers at the top of their game. They tend to set the general styles and trends that the high street brands then take on and produce their own take on them using cheaper materials and more easily marketable/produced items.

Er, i've just read back all my replies and I'm going to leave this alone now, this clearly isn't the place for a fashion debate :p
 
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Nimzicki said:
Did I, at any point, say that everything on the High Street has? No. What I said was that his influence can be seen in many places on the high street, there's a difference, stop being deliberately obtuse.
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So he creates stuff no one can wear and very few people will even see, others might pick elements of this and turn it into actual clothes and he gets credit? Ignoring the fact that you are presuming anything you think influenced by him actually must be.
"Fashion" in this sense is a vapid, introverted circle-jerk that most care nothing for.
 
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