Baby P's stepfather scalded by a so called 'napalm' bomb

semi-pro waster said:
It's on the Mail website, which is stereotypically a paper with a fairly reactionary readership - such responses to a relatively benign comment don't go a long way to dispelling the common view.
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Fairplay actually, it did seem like the whole site was full of celebrity gossip rather than actual news
 
semi-pro waster said:
It's not napalm but the supposed addition of sugar to the boiling water (there appears to be some doubt whether it was or wasn't added) makes it sticky which as I'm sure you know is a quality of napalm.
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But the Ministry of Justice today said no sugar had been involved.
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I think the daily mail just wanted to get "napalm bomb" into the title quickly before the MoJ corrected them :p

Bombs, jail and baby p all in one headline?

Editor must have gone cross-eyed with joy when that landed on his desk :p
 
"Another inmate at Wakefield prison, where Barker is serving his 12-year jail term, hurled boiling water at Barker, leaving him screaming in pain"

I feel warm and fuzzy inside, hope he suffered:).
 
Spawn said:
Seems like the stepfather of Baby P has been pretty badly scarred by another inmate... So was this attack justified or not??
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I think it proves that prison serves neither as a deterrent to crime, nor as effective rehabilitation.

But I won't feel a shred of sympathy for the ********.
 
AcidHell2 said:
I thought sugar raised the temperature significantly. Rather that the stickiness.
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Well if you don't add sugar the boiling water just bounces off your victim. :(
Chuck some sugar in & it sticks & burns much more, I saw a Dude get jugged in Norwich but the Nub who done it only used water, He still had a Blister from his shoulder to his ear though. :p
It's called a Jugging. ;)
 
Red Porsche said:
Yes him being hanged would be much cheaper but its not just. What if he had mental problems? Sanctity of life? Etc.

How much do you want to cheapen life?
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Reading the replies in this thread, I weep for the future of humankind. We still have a long way to go.
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It is in no way justified. We have the law and he will server a minimum of 12 years or is it 22 years in prison and in all likely hood will never see freedom again. Violence solves nothing and there certainly is no justification for vigilante violence.
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Im confused? Are we not talking about same vile creature who ended a childs life by repeatedly beating it and breaking its back over his knee and raped another child?

What possible good can come from wasting money on trying to rehabilitate this animal? All his human rights should have been revoked at the end of the trial! A dog bites a child it gets put down. A man torchered a child over a period of time, pulling out nails etc... and then eventualy breaks it back and leaves it to die, and he gets a jail cell?

Mabey im wrong but IMO the day he laid a finger on a child he stopped being human.
 
SkodaMart said:
....And if it had been your son he had abused tortured and killed?
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You got me there.

What i would i have done to him would have made torture an understatement and made him want to be dead. But course i would have wanted him to suffer if it was someone i loved. But because its not i can rationalise and separate emotion from my thoughts and realise "vigilante justice" is just as bad as unjustice.
 
semi-pro waster said:
Rather a leading questioning style there. It depends what you propose as a "much, much harsher" sentence whether I'd agree or not. However he already has an indeterminate sentence which as AcidHell2 points out so even after the minimum tariff he may well not be released.
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Answer the question, do you think the sentence of 12 years is "fine" and proves that the law is working as intended for the benefit of us all or would you have preferred to see him serve a much longer sentence?

Don't give me this crap about how he might not get released when his minimum tariff is up, the assumption has to be that he will be based on a) past performance of the prison service releasing prisoners as soon as they can, and b) it's the whole point of a minimum tariff in the first place?
 
MeEsH BaKkA said:
Mabey im wrong but IMO the day he laid a finger on a child he stopped being human.
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You are wrong. He was, is and always will be human. We can't forget that. He is human in that he deserves to be dealt with with justice, not by caveman primitives baying for blood. He is a human in that he is the same species as us. A reminder that we are all capable of horrific acts.

One of the fundamental things that elevates us as a species is the sense and application of justice, rather than bestial revenge. That is what people here are allowing themselves to be corrupted by. He causes a horrific act and is condemned for it. He is then a victim of a horrific act and people are happy, cheering, baying for blood. Where is the sense? Two wrongs do not make a right.

We like to think of ourselves as enlightened, as intelligent and yet there are still a large proportion of us who would deny a person a second chance. Who would gladly support and watch people being tortured, killed, and raped. People who think that revenge = justice. People who are so emotionally affected by everything, that they allow those emotions to rule them, rather than applying logic and reason.
 
scorza said:
Don't give me this crap about how he might not get released when his minimum tariff is up, the assumption has to be that he will be based on a) past performance of the prison service releasing prisoners as soon as they can, and b) it's the whole point of a minimum tariff in the first place?
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Despite the fact that he has two indeterminate sentences or do we just gloss over that?
 
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