British and Irish allegedly assassinate Hamas leader in Dubai

Chimerical said:
Not really. It's just it probably will make a difference for about half a day. It's not like 'terrorist' is a medical condition you're born with. Someone else will take his place and everythings back to normal.
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Terrorists kill people, "we" have just killed one of them. Surely that makes us as bad as them.

When they kill people it's bad.
When we kill people it's okay.
 
wow.. either we have a lot of people with a lot of top secret information, or we have a forum full of PC enthusiasts trying to compare this to Hollywood movies and games.
 
Tummy said:
Terrorists kill people, "we" have just killed one of them. Surely that makes us as bad as them.

When they kill people it's bad.
When we kill people it's okay.
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Police sniper shoots a gun man who has stated he is about to start killing hostages.

Is the sniper as bad as the hostage taker?
 
Tefal said:
Police sniper shoots a gun man who has stated he is about to start killing hostages.

Is the sniper as bad as the hostage taker?
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You raise a very true point, but I'd much rather these people get apprehended and then sent to trial. If you can get close enough to knock them off, why not just do that instead?

Perhaps it is a bit of a naive viewpoint to hold, but the rule of law has to take precedence.

markweatherill said:
No because we have God on our side.
All they have is Allah.
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Either you're a crap troll or terrificly ignorant.
 
KNiVES said:
You raise a very true point, but I'd much rather these people get apprehended and then sent to trial. If you can get close enough to knock them off, why not just do that instead?
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Because it's on e thing to get into a place and kill someone then try and get out but to get in then try and kidnap them and bring them home?

Far more difficult.

Especially if the law doesn't allow for such an arrest. (and it brings down international problem as it has to be public, whereas an assassination can be secret/your responsibility covered up.)
 
simulatorman said:
Another successful Mossad operation. ;)
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not all that successful tbh...

I mean they complete the task but then also got their faces plastered all over the world's press. At least they didn't get themselves arrested this time though - the last time they screwed up something like this they'd killed the wrong guy in Norway and got arrested by the local police.
 
Tefal said:
Because it's on e thing to get into a place and kill someone then try and get out but to get in then try and kidnap them and bring them home?

Far more difficult.

Especially if the law doesn't allow for such an arrest. (and it brings down international problem as it has to be public, whereas an assassination can be secret/your responsibility covered up.)
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They're unlikely to care about the law tbh... this is the same organisation that kidnapped Mordechai Vanunu in Italy in order to bring him to trial in Israel - if they are prepared to deal with some fall out with the Italian Government they're hardly going to care about some Arab country moaning to various international organisations.

Killing probably was more practical and tbh... they most likely preferred him to be dead.
 
TJM said:
I am accepting bets that the Dubai security forces have no idea who did it (or don't want to publicly blame Israel) and have instead decided to pin the blame on a random assortment of Europeans.
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except they clearly haven't

'We have no doubts that it was 11 people holding these passport, and we regret that they used the travel documents of friendly countries,'
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Tummy said:
Doesn't killing them make us as bad as them?
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Of course it does but if it supports the lies about the war on terrorism then no its perfectly fine to go round killing people ie terrorists.

In some ways its one less terrorist to worry about and giving islam a bad name but then on the other hand killing him doesnt give us the moral high ground so to speak.

Much like when we sanctioned the hanging of Saddam Hussein...ok sure it was the Iraqi's who wanted it but at the end of it, it was the Allies ie british and Americans that sanctioned such a thing...personally i would have let him rot in prison for the rest of his life...makes me wonder why that Milosovic or whatever his name is was never put to death for his mass genocide of muslims in the balkans area ie yugoslavia or what it was known as then. But then he died of a heart attack wasi it whilst in prison??...so good riddance to bad rubbish.
 
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If we think about it, its rather unlikely that any assasins would all pop through customs using their own passpost so that as soon as their names are released they are identified. They probably used european ones because we are unlikely to be over there for negative reasons.

Come on guys, a little common sense.
 
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