Gaddafi Urges Holy War Against Swizterland

[D.P.]

Anyway, this is not really the point. The tension between Libya and Switzerland goes back a long time and don't originate in the temporary minaret ban at all.

Every week there is a story in the papers.


As for the minaret ban, the federal government will likely reverse the ban soon. And in any case, there is no definition of what a minaret is, so they can still be built but called something different. So actually, there is much more pressure in building minarets now, so the ban has entirely failed before it started. The UDC are also being taken to the European court of human rights (confusing since Switzerland is not yet in the EU, but it does try to get some of the benefits).

 

[silvercut]

I don't see swtizerland ever making any demands on libya.

You know when in rome do as the romans... What really annoys me is that once these ferign people are shown the hospitaliy of the host country they then start taking liberties. If you don't like it GTFO of that country ?

 

[Random Guy]

I don't see swtizerland ever making any demands on libya.

You know when in rome do as the romans... What really annoys me is that once these ferign people are shown the hospitaliy of the host country they then start taking liberties. If you don't like it GTFO of that country ?

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH 'ferign'.

Quoted for Fail.

Except the SVP (UDC) is a right leaning centerist conservative party....

...and what does that tell you about the leaps and strides we have made in racism over the last 10 years?

 

[SteveOBHave]

Don't worry, they have knives that can become corkscrews or that weird hook one you aren't quite sure what it's for, at a moment notice -- they'll do fine on their own.

interesting that one - the hook thing is actually really useful in a number of situations - In New Zealand where there are large numbers of farmers they get used for grabbing the strings on large bales so the string doesn't cut your fingers.

Anywhere else it is used as a package hook for much the same reason.

 

[Tefal]

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/754.html

No, no one invades Switzerland as they agree to hold your stolen gold for you

 

[Tefal]

For those who don't think switzerland is racist:
A recent poster from the ultra-right wing UDC party

they won the election didn't they?

 

[CircleFaust]

I don't see swtizerland ever making any demands on libya.

You know when in rome do as the romans... What really annoys me is that once these ferign people are shown the hospitaliy of the host country they then start taking liberties. If you don't like it GTFO of that country ?

aye

 

[Tefal]

By the way voter turnout was unusually high for the minaret vote at 53%

Utter nonsense.

The whole Swiss population voted on the minaret issue and a majority voted for a ban. .

errrrr

 

[Gaidin109]

Anyway, this is not really the point. The tension between Libya and Switzerland goes back a long time and don't originate in the temporary minaret ban at all.

Every week there is a story in the papers.


As for the minaret ban, the federal government will likely reverse the ban soon. And in any case, there is no definition of what a minaret is, so they can still be built but called something different. So actually, there is much more pressure in building minarets now, so the ban has entirely failed before it started. The UDC are also being taken to the European court of human rights (confusing since Switzerland is not yet in the EU, but it does try to get some of the benefits).

you refer to the party as the UDC, when it is not, the UDC no longer exist its members were subsumed by the SVP. You seem to be purposely mis-representing them as far right Nazi's. Also I wasnt refering to the Sheep poster, but the fact that you put a neo-nazi one with it for no other reason than to mis-represent them once again as Nazi', the second picture had nothing to do with the SVP.

The right or wrong of minaret building are secondary to the fact that you seem to be creating a political agenda that doesn't exist.

 

[Tefal]

You know when in rome do as the romans... What really annoys me is that once these ferign people are shown the hospitaliy of the host country they then start taking liberties. If you don't like it GTFO of that country ?

Yeah almost like some middle eastern religion coming here replacing the native on and building churches all over the place...wait.

 

[indup]

Ah the religion of peace.

dirty cant you change your name to ignorant as its a better description of yourself,dirty aint bad but ignorant is closer to the truth.

lol, gaddafi the kaafir urging jihad.

 

[D.P.]

you refer to the party as the UDC, when it is not, the UDC no longer exist its members were subsumed by the SVP. You seem to be purposely mis-representing them as far right Nazi's. Also I wasnt refering to the Sheep poster, but the fact that you put a neo-nazi one with it for no other reason than to mis-represent them once again as Nazi', the second picture had nothing to do with the SVP.

The right or wrong of minaret building are secondary to the fact that you seem to be creating a political agenda that doesn't exist.

No, The UDC is still a correct abbreviation for the party, and is used official, even on the racists posters. From Wiki: "The Swiss People's Party (SVP) also known as the Democratic Union of the Centre (UDC)". UDC is also used on television broadcasts , in newsprints, and their ad-campaigns.

I am not misrepresenting them, their racial attitude is openly projected. The far-right nazi associate mostly with the UDC/SVP.

The neo-nazi picture is of UDC/SVP voters rejoicing at the success of the UDC's ploy to ban minarets as a racially motivated statement.
Those are SVP voters, and has everything to do with SVP/UDC.


I'm not creating a political agenda. I'm pointing out that the banning of the minarets was entirely a racially motivated statement. It was an attack of muslims, pure and simple. Swiss people wont deny this, and will openly admit the reason has nothing to do with architecture or other nonsense that some BNP supports pretend. There are basically no Minarets in Switzerland at all, so the need to ban them was entirely absent.

And don't mistake me for some liberal-socialist airhead. My political beliefs are very definitely right-wing (I'm a Conservative voter, and would even wish the tories were stronger right). I want a smaller more efficient government which taxes less, has an optimal social-security system, does not generate a lazy-inefficient populace, has tighter and more strict laws with longer sentences, has controlled immigration but open borders for those who are a net contributer.

What I despise is any form of racism.

 

[semi-pro waster]

errrrr

Not necessarily contradictory - the whole Swiss population could have had the opportunity to vote even if "only" 53% of them did so on this issue. So in this case it could be that the majority voted and of those the majority voted for a ban.

Personally I'm not sure that minarets shouldn't be allowed but I don't know enough about the issue or the Swiss policies on planning permission to comment fully.

 

[Tefal]

Not necessarily contradictory - the whole Swiss population could have had the opportunity to vote even if "only" 53% of them did so on this issue.

No

The whole Swiss population voted

is contradictory to

53% voted.

 

[Spie]

OK smarty pants. The whole Swiss population had the opportunity to vote. It was pretty obvious.

 

[JaffaJedi]

Gaddafi has gone cuckoo

 

[Sankari]

Correct: a minority of racists, mostly in the German speaking part, voted to ban minarets. A majority of people just didn't vote on the issue. I can assure you, not a single swiss person i know voted in favor of banning minarets and all are very upset by it.

I'm confused. What's racist about banning minarets?

 

[D.P.]

I'm confused. What's racist about banning minarets?

Banning minarets isn't, but the reason for the ban had absolutely nothing to do with minarets!

At the time of the vote there was a total of only 4 minarets, now there are more with many more planned!

 

[dirtydog]

Gaddafi has gone cuckoo

'gone' implies he hasn't always been that way

 

[scorza]

Banning minarets isn't, but the reason for the ban had absolutely nothing to do with minarets!

At the time of the vote there was a total of only 4 minarets, now there are more with many more planned!

Good job they are banned then, otherwise Basel might have ended up looking like Birmingham.