not really they selectively picked three idiots, a handful of people does not portray everyone.
The Day the Immigrants Left
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not really they selectively picked three idiots, a handful of people does not portray everyone.
Chances are those people are hard to find, as they'll have jobs.
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How on earth do you think the BBC found people who wouldn't really work?
Also, the whole programme wasn't useless - or are you saying they only looked for employers who said that job applicants dried up after 1997 and they needed immigrants?
Love how they completely skimmed over WAGES lol immigrants often live together get driven in vans to work for free etc etc so they pay dirt cheap rent so they can afford to take these minimum wage jobs save the money then go home min wage here is a fortune to them.
It's probably the equivalent of me being able to go to romania and pick potatos for £1000 per week and pay £20 a week rent £20 a week food.
Bet most of the places on the show don't even have a work contract and are minimum wage no paid holidays no overtime rates etc etc.
British people WILL do the jobs if the pay and conditions are decent end of.
Why on earth would employers offer a decent contract wages and conditions when they have an endless supply of immigrants whom they can lay off and privide no benefits what so ever and pay them min wage.
It's probably the equivalent of me being able to go to romania and pick potatos for £1000 per week and pay £20 a week rent £20 a week food.
Bet most of the places on the show don't even have a work contract and are minimum wage no paid holidays no overtime rates etc etc.
British people WILL do the jobs if the pay and conditions are decent end of.
Why on earth would employers offer a decent contract wages and conditions when they have an endless supply of immigrants whom they can lay off and privide no benefits what so ever and pay them min wage.
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Rofl, can I borrow your massive paint brush?
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You seem to be under the delusion that immigrant workers do not get the same rights and entitlements any other British citizen, and it is illegal for employers to discriminate.
I am not deluded at all I know exactly what the score is clearly you seem to be under the delusion that immigrants even care about working conditions and contracts, they are just happy to get the work and are highly unlikely to take an employer to court or even know that they can if they get laid off or no paid holidays let alone afford to do so.
Show me a job where mass immigrants work exlusively then that has good wages conditions and benefits ?
Show me a job where mass immigrants work exlusively then that has good wages conditions and benefits ?
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It it down to more short-term thinking from the government. Instead of forcing British people who cant be bothered to work into jobs by making it difficult for them not to work they allow overseas workers to come in and do the jobs, no doubt they work hard and do a good job but the long term social problems it will cause for this country are not being considered. Too many career politicians out there who care more about vote buying than the future of this country.
Wasn't showing this one of the main point of the program, that while there are x million immigrants in the country working they are doing job that no one else would do at the wages offered. If the companies were forced to recruit only UK citizens then most of the firms would either close and move abroad or automate a lot more meaning there still wouldn't be the jobs. Basically the UK get a population of generally hard working, health young people which means lots of tax with little cost in term of health care, pension etc.
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All the participants at the start were all keen and willing to work.
They all said they wanted to work.
They all said they had been looking for work.
I didn't expect most of these people to phone in sick.
Then again, if they were really hard working and so keen to work they wouldn't be unemployed in the first place.
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WHAT AN IDIOT!
If employers paid British workers more, they would have to ask for more money from the supermarkets.
The supermarkets take the cheapest supplier, therefore would simply buy more goods from abroad which would result in the loss of MORE local jobs.
As the British employers would go out of business, the British marketing and sales team would go out of business, the British suppliers of the fertiliser would go out of business and the British transportation workers too etc etc etc !
Do you pay more for British goods?
Do you even look?
Do you ever ask if your bacon is british when buying a bacon sandwhich?
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Its a long chain, the migrant workers only make up a small link in this chain and they do good job and pay taxes!
if nobody is left in their own country to work who is paying taxes over there? - NOBODY - All they will be left with is the elderly, unemployed, long term sick, long term work shy etc! They have it worse!
Would you rather British people had to leave their families to find work and then pay a large chunk in taxes to support people too lazy to do the jobs themselves?
If employers paid British workers more, they would have to ask for more money from the supermarkets.
The supermarkets take the cheapest supplier, therefore would simply buy more goods from abroad which would result in the loss of MORE local jobs.
As the British employers would go out of business, the British marketing and sales team would go out of business, the British suppliers of the fertiliser would go out of business and the British transportation workers too etc etc etc !
Do you pay more for British goods?
Do you even look?
Do you ever ask if your bacon is british when buying a bacon sandwhich?
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Its a long chain, the migrant workers only make up a small link in this chain and they do good job and pay taxes!
if nobody is left in their own country to work who is paying taxes over there? - NOBODY - All they will be left with is the elderly, unemployed, long term sick, long term work shy etc! They have it worse!
Would you rather British people had to leave their families to find work and then pay a large chunk in taxes to support people too lazy to do the jobs themselves?
Personally anyone claiming dole should be forced to go and work on farms, clean the streets do all the jobs that immigrants would do.
If not, they don't get their dole check and can starve to death for all I care. Removal from the genepool springs to mind.
lazy ***** and people like you and me have to support these scum bags.
Our system here in the UK is ballsed up. Imagine if we got rid of all these freeloaders who claim benefits but are fit enough to work. Would crime go down, would we have more money for our econoy. More than likely.
If not, they don't get their dole check and can starve to death for all I care. Removal from the genepool springs to mind.
lazy ***** and people like you and me have to support these scum bags.
Our system here in the UK is ballsed up. Imagine if we got rid of all these freeloaders who claim benefits but are fit enough to work. Would crime go down, would we have more money for our econoy. More than likely.
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The show was't a waste of money it showed perfectly well what's wrong with the country. Soft parents*, soft benefits system and a general work shy nature.
* My parent's instilled in me the value of working even if it is the minimum wage or only as much as you'd get on benefits.
* My parent's instilled in me the value of working even if it is the minimum wage or only as much as you'd get on benefits.
TBH, i think this is responsible for 90% of the problem we currently have with benefit scroungers. If the parents are morons, how to you expect the kids to not be?!
If a farm supplies supermarkets they will be paying min wage, overtime and holiday. We get upto 10 ethical audits a year from various supermarkets and they spend at least an hour randomly checking wages for workers.
And as for british workers we have advertised picking jobs at the job centres and get 2 to 3 applicants a year. None last more than a week. Our average pickers earn £300 per week whilst good pickers can earn 400+
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cracked me up when the young lad text in at 12:00am saying just got in dont feel well wont be able to come in to work......
I have been to wisbech and its true that at times it can feel like a foreign country, there are a few bars that british people just dont go into. but they are here and dont see them going anywhere, the program did prove that they work hard but as its been said they come here earn money and then take that money out of the economy surely thats got to be a bad thing?
how about for every hard working non-benifit-claiming immigrant we get come into this country we send out a lazy **** **** **** benifit-claiming **** **** just an idea
I have been to wisbech and its true that at times it can feel like a foreign country, there are a few bars that british people just dont go into. but they are here and dont see them going anywhere, the program did prove that they work hard but as its been said they come here earn money and then take that money out of the economy surely thats got to be a bad thing?
how about for every hard working non-benifit-claiming immigrant we get come into this country we send out a lazy **** **** **** benifit-claiming **** **** just an idea
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I agree. Some parents nowadays think it is everybody else's fault their kids are bad or it's everybody else's responsibility to raise them. However as soon as little Leroy or Chelsea or whatever dimwits call their kids now gets told off at school they run in with their tracksuits on going "Dowch yo tell my Chelsea off init"