VAT on food being considered.

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People do understand the difference between "consider" and "implement", right? It's the job of Whitehall to consider every possible method of raising revenue. Many of these methods will be rejected, some will be modified, and some will be brought in as law. But just because someone has written a paper on an idea does not mean it's going to happen - it just means that someone has thought about it. Which is their job. When a concrete proposal comes out, then you can bleat about it.


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Would you be quite so generous if it was a conservative "musing"? :)

The current rules of what food is and isn't exempt from VAT are quite amusing. Lots of odd little foibles, sometimes down to the same product being exempt or not depending on what is on the packaging.
 
The money is going to have to come from somewhere so this makes as much sense as anything else

Money can come from savings due to improvements in efficiency.
I don't see why they need to raise taxes, instead of making savings elsewhere via more efficient spending
 
Assuming that's a cry to tax the bankers, they already pay tax. ****loads of it - Bonuses will be taxed at 40%...

I know bankers pay tax on bonuses. The trouble is that the Government bailed the bankers out (and in all probability rightly so) so it seems right that the banking sector should pay the money back.

It's not like I can get a loan for a car from HSBC and ask my street to pay it back for me is it?

Taxing food punishes the poor disproportionately and thus is a bad idea.

The money is going to have to come from somewhere so this makes as much sense as anything else

No it doesn't it makes no sense at all. You do not tax essentials that people need to live. As I've said this only punishes the poor and that isn't right and it will probably not raise much revenue anyway.

The banks should pay back what they owe. End of. Note this does not mean scraping bonuses!
 
"given the god awful state of the UK's finances, clearly money does & will need to be raised to tackle the mess somehow".

So taxing food is the answer. Come on don't stop there, tax oxygen.
 
The next election is one that neither party can afford to win because it will require them to take drastic and deeply unpopular measures to rescue the UK's lame duck economy and tackle her massive debt burden.
 
But unhealthy food is the cheapest stuff :/ , there is a reason lots of poor people are chubby, not everyone can afford decent food.

complete rubbish

fruit and veg costs naff all tbh...

****** are just often lazy (which is likely why they're ****** on a low income in the first place) and so ready meals are easier for them to make after a stressful day collecting benefits and looking after the 5 kids from 3 different dads...

I've got no problem with taxing junk food/high fat/sugar content stuff.... as it might actually get to the point where it affects the bottom line for ****** too much that they have to compromise and start actually preparing meals using the raw ingredients (something which require a small amount of effort...)
 
I know bankers pay tax on bonuses. The trouble is that the Government bailed the bankers out (and in all probability rightly so) so it seems right that the banking sector should pay the money back.

they are paying the money back though - Northern rock has paid quite a bit back and the govt owns a large enough stake of RBS and lloyds - they'll probably make a small profit tbh...

the losses in the US will likely come from automakers and the insurer AIG - again the big WallStreet banks will pay back their loans


why tax the employees income because their employer screwed up - with that logic the auto workers in America should probably lose their homes to pay back the tax payer. It isn't the tax payers fault that their unions were too greedy to the point where car making became so inefficient in the US that the big manufacturers required huge tax payer funded bailouts.
 
Really bad idea. I know many familys here in hull who are living basically hand to mouth as it is, doing this will just put too much strain on them which they just don't need.

Money should be put into research at the universitys instead of taken away as this is worth a silly amount of money. Look at how much a university made out of google shares from trading a patent for shares about 2 years ago lol. (somewhere in the region of 336 million)

We need to start exporting either goods or home grown technology and turn into something like japan in regards to the later, not simply import everything and take money out of the education system + research.


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The next election is one that neither party can afford to win because it will require them to take drastic and deeply unpopular measures to rescue the UK's lame duck economy and tackle her massive debt burden.


I got a feeling both major parties the Tories and the "Socialist Scumbags that are killing our Soldiers" want nothing more than to lose the next election. This is going to be the 1st election in UK history when nobody actually wants to win it.
 
We need to start exporting either goods or home grown technology and turn into something like japan in regards to the later, not simply import everything and take money out of the education system + research.

UKs no1 export are banks and other financial institutions :rolleyes:
 
Here in Australia we have a VAT equivalent called the GST. The rate is 10% (as opposed to the VAT's 17.5%) but it is levied on some foods.

The following food items are GST-free:

* fruit and vegetables
* meat
* eggs
* bread
* cheese
* soup
* milk, tea, coffee, fruit and vegetable juices (with 90% minimum by volume of juice)
* breakfast cereals
* flour
* infant formula
* sugar.

Ingredients used to make food for human consumption are also GST free, including:

* some beverages and beverage ingredients
* fats and oils marketed for culinary or for cooking purposes.​

(Source).

This works well for us.
 
Here in Australia we have a VAT equivalent called the GST. The rate is 10% (as opposed to the VAT's 17.5%) but it is levied on some foods.

The following food items are GST-free:

* fruit and vegetables
* meat
* eggs
* bread
* cheese
* soup
* milk, tea, coffee, fruit and vegetable juices (with 90% minimum by volume of juice)
* breakfast cereals
* flour
* infant formula
* sugar.

Ingredients used to make food for human consumption are also GST free, including:

* some beverages and beverage ingredients
* fats and oils marketed for culinary or for cooking purposes.​

(Source).

This works well for us.

sounds a good way to do it
 
you are right yes but to me its expensive when i only get 52 quid a week even the cheapest stuff.

sorry, didn't mean that as it may have sounded

what I meant to say was that food need not be as expensive as many of us make it, many of us make our food bills much higher than they need to be out of idleness

if that makes sense

I am sure that to many it can be a genuine struggle
 
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