Convince my dad not to get an iPhone...

Why not let him get an iPhone?

The iPhone is a awesome smart phone, wouldn't say it's the best but it's certainly no Palm Pre. The sales tell you that and it's not just down to Apple Marketing, else you would have seen a high return rate.

The iPhone is great at the following:
  • Web browsing
  • Gaming
  • Email - I work for a large FMCG manufacturer and get 200+ emails a day
  • Music playback
  • Sleek UI that works, isn't slow and is easy to use

It's not so great because:
  • Crap battry life - what smart phone does have good battery though?
  • Can't multi task

Now, you could add the fact it isn't customisable to the "not so great list" but in reality - opening things up and allowing them to be customised usually leads to people tinkering too much or with things they don't understand.

This can lead to poor performance or in worst case scenario, damaging what ever it is you're customising.

I could customise my N95 UI - but it still ran Symbian underneath and you know what they say - you can't polish a turd. At least the UI Apple has locked you to looks good and works.

As for multi-tasking, people who buy the iPhone are aware that it can't multi task. As an iPhone user, I've honestly never been frustrated by the lack of multitasking or wished I had it.

The only features I noticed missing from the iPhone pre 3.0, was the ability to copy/paste and message forwarding.

Not an iPhone or Apple fan boy, will be buying a Desire when I can as I fancy a change - but god, people do bang on about the iPhone as if it was an early 1990's phone trying to compete as a smart phone.
 
Multi-tasking is something I find important now tbh. I like to have music playing when browsing for example, or I won't want to have to close what I was doing to read a text I just received. One of the things I liked about my N96 was how much I could leave running in the background.
 
skippi90 said:
Multi-tasking is something I find important now tbh. I like to have music playing when browsing for example, or I won't want to have to close what I was doing to read a text I just received. One of the things I liked about my N96 was how much I could leave running in the background.
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You can listen to music on the iPhone whilst browsing, you can even control the music player with an overlay also.

Kind of similar with texts - you get an overlay but it depends on the length of the message as to if you can read it fully.

I'm not sure what the N96 UI was like but on the N95 I had to hold down a button to make a task list appear with all running applications. Then I had to scroll and select the one I wanted in focus.

To be honest, that for me wasn't any quicker than how it is on my iPhone now.

Obviously it depends on the person RE: Multitasking, for me I went from a multi tasking phone to one that doesn't and have not regretted it one bit.
 
Never had an experience with that phone, but I'm guessing it's cheap for a reason.

The Desire is more expensive and in demand because of the hardware, 1Ghz processor and oodles of RAM.

I doubt that phone has such specifications which is probably why it's cheap.
 
Superewza said:
800MHz CPU but only 128MB RAM. Should balance out and be about the same as the Hero.
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The bit about the 800 Mhz CPU is that I have never actually seen a spec that shows what kind of CPU it is. That ruled the phone out for me when I was doing research. A Pentium 3 800MHz is not the same as a Core 2 Quad running at 800Mhz for example.

As for Mekrel - to be fair you are absolutely correct. There are some people for whom the iPhone does everything it needs to and would be fantastic for. Some people by simple dint of having different applications that they consider "must have" could never live with the iPhone. The key is identifying the two types and recommending a phone accordingly.
 
osc89er said:
The bit about the 800 Mhz CPU is that I have never actually seen a spec that shows what kind of CPU it is. That ruled the phone out for me when I was doing research. A Pentium 3 800MHz is not the same as a Core 2 Quad running at 800Mhz for example.
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I don't think there are any multi core mobile CPUs, are there? It's a Samsung 'own brand' CPU, so don't know how it will actually perform. Are there any benchmarking 'apps' i can run?

As for the RAM, it shouldn't make too much of a difference unless you run lots of things at once.
 
jesus wept, benchmarking a phone ffs... its a bloody phone, for calling, txting, maybe the odd email/playing tunes

sorry for jumping in but seriously....
 
G1BB0 said:
jesus wept, benchmarking a phone ffs... its a bloody phone, for calling, txting, maybe the odd email/playing tunes

sorry for jumping in but seriously....
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No that's a dumb phone, not a smartphone. :p

Yeah there are some benchmarking softwares, however I have a feeling it will be like trying to benchmark Windows, OSX and Linux so I don't know how successful it'll be...

EDIT: As for the iPhone, it's not the mythical phone it's supposed to be, there are plenty of issues with slowdown, crashing and all the other things associated with phones (not to mention apparent poor build quality and the case cracking). Just have a look in the Apple subsection to see what I mean.
 
Why not? Anyone thats used a Touch Diamond running the first verison of TouchFlo3D will understand the importance of a mobile having fast hardware as that thing was very slow.
 
Superewza said:
I don't think there are any multi core mobile CPUs, are there? It's a Samsung 'own brand' CPU, so don't know how it will actually perform. Are there any benchmarking 'apps' i can run?

As for the RAM, it shouldn't make too much of a difference unless you run lots of things at once.
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the point is that clock speed is meaningless without context. and when the context is hidden then I have to assume shenanigans in the marketing
 
osc89er said:
You really shouldn't have to invalidate your warranty to get a basic feature though eh?
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Your warranty won't be affected at all, a simple restoration will remove all trace of any modding. I even sent back a broken iPhone which had been 'modded' which I'd dropped in water so it couldn't be restored and there was no issue at all in getting a replacement (luckily the water detector hadn't got wet!).
 
Why does it matter what clockspeed a phone is ? If you wanted to see how fast it was, then all you need to do is watch youtube videos of people going through the menus or running apps or whatever. If you see a phone you are happy with, what does it matter if the clockspeed is 300mhz or 2ghz? It is what it is.
 
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