What's your point in reiterating what I said?
Doctors urge ban on smoking in cars
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What's your point in reiterating what I said?
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I think his point is, the people who cant handle minor distractions, that he doesnt care about them (and rightly so) and they shouldnt be driving
And because they shouldnt be driving there is no need to take them in account..
So saying some people cant do it is not a good enough reason to ban everyone, because they shouldnt be driving in the first place
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Please elaborate....
Smoking can, like anything else be a distraction, but the law doesn't require you to be the best driver ever all the time, just a minimum standard e.g. 6mm of tread on good tyres is desirable, but legally 1.6mm on dithcfinders will do.
When i am hooning round country lanes i don't smoke, for the fact i am trying to conventrate, on a motorway at 70mph i require much less attention to avoid crashing.
Smoking around small children <5 years with the windows closed is one thing, but 10+ years with the windows open on an irregular basis is almost an irrelevancy (medially, unless they have medical issues etc).
We have laws in place to combat bad driving, why do we need another law, careless/dangerous driving is well established and if someone crashes because they were smoking, eating, drinking or just a crap driver they can be prosecuted.
I would also be interested to see the raw data used to come up with this study as any data can be manipulated to saw whatever you want in most cases.
People need to calm down, if you don't want people smoking in your car that's ok, but imagine someone saying you cannot watch violent films or listen to music with swearing in your house because it may harm your children.
And then imagine i am saying i agree with it and you are scum.
Just a fun quote for you "Oh Kent, you can use statistics to prove anything, 43% of all people know that"
We can get fined for drinking, eating etc, smoking is no different.
I used to smoke, and the best cigs I had were when driving. If I still smoked I'd have the same opinion as yourself, because it was something I throughly enjoyed. Since giving up, I can see that it is just another distraction whilst driving. The cig could drop on the carpet, prompting the driver to pick it up to stop the floor burning, ash can come off cig and into your eye when you're flicking it out of the window, you can be distracted while lighting the cig whilst driving, we try to do it before we set off, but I don't think that's always the case, and then there is the attention it takes to put it out afterwards, not the easiest thing to do if you don't throw it out the window like most people.
The best thing I did was quit. As someone with not a lot of disposable income, it saved me a fortune, and I don't feel the need to smoke anymore, I don't get stressed every few hours to then be de-stressed by a smoking
Your question was "Just because you can, should the road be full of the morons who can't?"
I know that is a question because it has a ? at the end.
I tell you what, I will say it again with one extra word, try reading the whole thing and formulating a proper response.
NO! if you cant deal with minor distractions whilst driving in a safe way then you should not be allowed to drive.
Is that any better?
I see your point's, what I was trying to say is that if drinking and eating isn't legal, then smoking shouldn't be either, as it's no different.
The fact the people want to outlaw it on health grounds is just pathetic, it doesn't matter where people smoke, if they are a smoker, they will smoke regardless, so if it is banned, it should be on the grounds that it is (slightly) dangerous as is eating / drinking
The fact the people want to outlaw it on health grounds is just pathetic, it doesn't matter where people smoke, if they are a smoker, they will smoke regardless, so if it is banned, it should be on the grounds that it is (slightly) dangerous as is eating / drinking
Eating and drinking are not illegal to do behind the wheel.
The highway code lists them as distractions and added smoking a few years ago.
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I wish people would get over the health arguments against smoking. I'm pretty sure being sat in-front of a computer all day is unhealthy but I don't see that being banned. In fact nothing I do is healthy and then you have people who binge eat on McDonald's all day which is far worse.
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None of that affects other people though. Smoking does.
I don't know if you're joking or not.
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Obesity burdens the NHS so yes it does affect other people. You have to pay for it. At least smokers cover themselves in the amount of taxes they pay.
Fat people don't wave their fat around in my face at bus stops. Diffusion, on the other hand, has no such sense of dignity.
I'm really not sure you understand what I am trying to say.
You keep repeating what I am saying, I agree with you but you seem to be taking it as if I'm arguing against you, I am not!
You also seem to think that people you mention actually stop themselves driving. This does not happen, people are idiots and do all sorts of things whilst driving, some just simply drive. Badly. Then accidents happens.
Now because of these people the rest of us have to suffer, with things like increased insurance costs and new laws. Laws like not using a mobile phone whilst driving make sense to me.
But the fact that people do have problems not getting distracted and continue to drive is enough reason to make those who do it punishable.
Simply saying "if you cant deal with minor distractions whilst driving in a safe way then you should not be allowed to drive." does not help anything, people will keep driving....
...and being morons.
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But it's silly, they'd have to ban drinking too (not alcohol, the act of drinking anything) or doing anything other than driving, there's far they can go...so I don't see this working.
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I occasionally smoke in the car, but I never smoke whilst driving anymore, because I once had an incident where i flicked a fag-end out of the window, only for it to come straight back in and land on the back seat. 
Never again.
Never again.