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***Nvidia GTX480 & 470 reviews & discussion***
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Well I have just ordered a XFX 5970 BE. 
Which just shows there are more NV fanboys, and they on the whole seem to be well .. you know .. they seem to have more money than sense.
end of the day fatboy your trying to push a product, a product that is very expensive compared to its close very rival, im not there, i dont see what you see, so either one of 2 things.
1. there are a lot of people keeping out of the discussions and not saying that they are buying
2. your trying to generate a few more sales by telling us people are buying this
either way good luck to ocuk and the people buying them
( not meant in a nasty way btw )
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For those who do things other then games fermi has something to offer, for those who cannot stand ati for whatever reason fermi has something to offer. For general gaming person fermi has very little to offer and is not something really worth considering at this point in time. As for the drivers thing that gets mentioned a lot round here of the 20+ people in our gaming group only 4 of them have nvidia cards the rest having ati's and guess who it is that has had driver problems in the last six months 
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For me though this isn't good for any of us ati have no reason to lower prices i think the institutions that invest heavily in tech companys are not going to be happy with nvidia's management. There is no win win here for anyone other then fanboys red side can stand back have a bit of a laugh at this and in someways it deserves it the green ones will cling to the "it's the fastest single gpu you can buy" even though that will only be until ati release their refresh which i think will be quite soon and completely wipe out any fermi advantage.
For me fermi never really had a chance because nvidia seemed confused on what they wanted fermi to be and in the end it has tried to be the jack of all trades and master of none. I am feeling a bit down about all of this because once you step back from petty differnces or brand stupidity ot loyalty pending how you view it there isn't anything good here for the industry and for us customers generally.
. For me though this isn't good for any of us ati have no reason to lower prices i think the institutions that invest heavily in tech companys are not going to be happy with nvidia's management. There is no win win here for anyone other then fanboys red side can stand back have a bit of a laugh at this and in someways it deserves it the green ones will cling to the "it's the fastest single gpu you can buy" even though that will only be until ati release their refresh which i think will be quite soon and completely wipe out any fermi advantage.
For me fermi never really had a chance because nvidia seemed confused on what they wanted fermi to be and in the end it has tried to be the jack of all trades and master of none. I am feeling a bit down about all of this because once you step back from petty differnces or brand stupidity ot loyalty pending how you view it there isn't anything good here for the industry and for us customers generally.
Not enough apps outside of CS5 (which isn't even out yet) not enough things use CUDA and not to enough of a degree. CATIA still has no support, nor do ANSYS as yet, Pro/E has added support though.
I'm not surprised they aren't fully adopting CUDA as it relies on just one manufacturer of the two big players.
Dropping the ball is when you are responsible some or all of the negative aspects. In the case of ATI most of the supply went OEM's & there was no alternate to TMSC at this time so it not like they had any better options that they did not try to exploit.
NV are in the same situation with TMSC but the design issues are down to them.
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That's obviously a lie.
Well, it is coming up to BBQ season
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I think a few weeks should be given for a better comparisons.
Also, it may not just be about the raw numbers. It may be that Nvidia DX11 processing (tesselation etc) may be better than Ati DX11 processing even if it doesn't mean a big boost in performance figures, DX11 games just might just look better with the newer design of the NVidia architecture.
I haven't played a DX11 game yet with the 5770 but when I do, I think the 5770 is still good enough for a while yet
Also, it may not just be about the raw numbers. It may be that Nvidia DX11 processing (tesselation etc) may be better than Ati DX11 processing even if it doesn't mean a big boost in performance figures, DX11 games just might just look better with the newer design of the NVidia architecture.
I haven't played a DX11 game yet with the 5770 but when I do, I think the 5770 is still good enough for a while yet
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ATi 5 series area going to get refreshes soon that should cream Fermi, and then we have 6 series not that long away
but surely nvidia must have known they needed to nail this on day 1, release the card with a set of drivers to set the standard and make all the peoples minds up onthe day of release. ( wow these relly kick ati ass )
as far as i can see the majority of people are thinking its a no no because the overall performance increase over 5xxx is worth nothing.
obviosly there are the others who either dont see this, or dont care about the facts.
im thinking no mtter what nvidia produce driver wise over the next months ahead, ati will out smart them with refresh and put fermi burny to bed
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If its as hot as it seems, the shroud/GPU case will be the limiting factor rather than the PC case (or lack thereof) that the card is in.
Will be interesting to see how quick 3rd party coolers are rushed to market
Que quad slot pci tower style coolers, lol
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Fermie has impressed me they seem decent little cards. when are the ati refreshers out?