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***Nvidia GTX480 & 470 reviews & discussion***

AMG said:
the GPU can't be confused with a CPU

the CPU is needed like it or not, Nvidia is only trying to make it possible to use the GPU s power to help out the CPU on CPU intensive apps NOT replace it


Also Nvidia probley won't get one to make x86 CPUs anyway...as it will be expensive they might as well do what they are doing now
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And just imagine how hot that NV x86 CPU run & of course have loads of incompatible extensions that NV would prod developers to use just like PhysX.
 
Prices on (in stock) ATI 5850 cards seem to making sharp upwards jumps everywhere, I almost can't stand to look, way to kill off sales during a recession. I thought ATI would go out of their way to lower prices to give Nvidia a very bloody nose on the 470 cards. I wonder if the 470s will go up in price when available, rather than down. A frustrating time to be a consumer. Recession and poor exchange rate or no, I was expecting a huge price war.
 
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Detosx said:
Prices on (in stock) ATI 5850 cards seem to making sharp upwards jumps everywhere, I almost can't stand to look, way to kill off sales during a recession. I thought ATI would go out of their way to lower prices to give Nvidia a very bloody nose on the 470 cards. I wonder if the 470s will go up in price when available, rather than down. A frustrating time to be a consumer. Recession and poor exchange rate or no, I was expecting a huge price war.
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ATi set the RRP, the only time you'll see them LOWER the price is if they make an announcement that they've done so, however their RRP doesn't accurately reflect the price you can actually buy them for.

If we see price hikes, there's a 95% chance that it's the retailers cashing in on the flop known as fermi because 5800s are going to suddenly become more desirable when people realise just how bad fermi is.
 
Remember the GPUs come from the same factory, so whilst Nvidia are making very expensive keyrings and a few Fermi's, ATI aren't making 5xxx's. So since demand for the 5xxx is now likely to increase from a lot of people that were hanging back before making a decision and supply (which was already tight) is remaining much the same it can only lead to prices going upwards.
 
@ kylew and Jokester, thanks for your feedback. Even though it seems to me that the Nvidia cards have some less discussed advantages outside of games, I can see that I had not thought through all of the permutations. I still think bumping up prices is a dangerous game to play during a recession; the large (non computer) retail chain that I worked for laid all of its staff off on Christmas eve. I suppose a price war might yet happen at a later date and stimulate sales growth but... a great pity that Fermi was going to be substantially more expensive at launch.

Not knocking Overclockers, here. Good to see they have stock where others don't and at competitive prices.
 
Jokester said:
Remember the GPUs come from the same factory, so whilst Nvidia are making very expensive keyrings and a few Fermi's, ATI aren't making 5xxx's. So since demand for the 5xxx is now likely to increase from a lot of people that were hanging back before making a decision and supply (which was already tight) is remaining much the same it can only lead to prices going upwards.
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Surely AMD will have a deal for XXX cards per month, so whatever NV does will not affect AMD supply but will only affect when AMD asks for something above that XXX.
 
rypt said:
Surely AMD will have a deal for XXX cards per month, so whatever NV does will not affect AMD supply but will only affect when AMD asks for something above that XXX.
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As far as I'm aware they don't have monthly allocations, but just sell capacity to either Nvidia or ATI (or anyother company that's making stuff on 40nm). So if say Nvidia wanted 100,000 working GPUs they would need 5000 wafers for example. If that took 2months to make, ATI would be frozen out. It seems likely that this is what happened after the 5xxx came out and Nvidia were rumoured to have ramped up production of all their cheap cards to try and limit the available capacity for ATI to make more 5xxx.
 
mattyfez said:
Do you care to explain why? Intel says who can and cannot make x86 processors.
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Microsoft has just about as much to do with the X86 as intel, the reason why i m not saying AMD is because they pay intel it use itand I believe intel pay AMD for the 64bit part.


No idea who started it first if it was if it was MS or intel..
 
RavenXXX2 said:
A few more reviews which bench a good variety of games.


http://techgage.com/article/nvidia_geforce_gtx_480_-_gf100_has_landed/
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Ever since AMD's HD 5000 launch, I've commended the company for developing its graphics cards with such excellent power efficiency, but looking at the power draw from the GTX 480 truly emphasizes two possible facts... that AMD has really done a tremendous job on designing its architecture for ultimate power efficiency and performance, or that NVIDIA has done the stark opposite.
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nice quote from the above test
 
rypt said:
Because the only reason x86 is STILL so dominant is because MS, the maker of the largest OS, refuse to support anything else.
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for the moment at least give them a reason to change and I bet they will..


and I don't know why we are talking about the X86 its on a bleedin graphics card and is not really related in anyway.
 
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