on the whole forza3 vs gt5 debate. having got both consoles and owning forza 3 , gt5p and the demo i have to say i prefer forza, it just feels more real. ie in forza i pretty much drive how i do in real life and experience the same roll, grip etc.
i dont know its hard to explain but from what iv played of gt5 so far its just not quite there - maybe the full game will be , i dont know we will have to wait and see.
what i cant stand tho is the gt is better then everything blah blah , its like a bunch of 5 year olds still in denial where the fact is gt used to be a great franchise but it has got seriously stuck in the early 2000;s whereas pretty much everything out there has surpassed or bettered it in every way.... its up to sony and co to make sure gt5 isnt another stuck in the rut game but based on everything iv seen so far it will be exactly that.
Id clearly say I am the most excited on these forums about GT5 yes....
Although I dont think its ever been the case with myself in acting like that way or being blinded in that everything about GT is just better fullstop. Its not and the Forza franchise has done a lot of good things and certainly in many ways done things better than previous GT games. Audio, paint, online, new analogue clutch support and to an extent its tunning are well appreciated. Handling preference seems to be down to different people preferring one or the other it will never be a clean cut decision.
Turn 10 as a developer however are very prone to bigging up themselves and seem to have a way of believing how great they are as a developer. I dislike that kind of in your face marketing about them to a point its annoying. It was also very low of "Che" to run a Poll offering people that voted their game over GT as the better franchise with the promise of a "free car". Like really are they that desperate but it shows their eagerness to rival the GT series.
A similar discussion is on GTP at the moment and covers some the the below points.
Aparently every single Forza game released has had bugs, bugs that did not get fixed. Whats worse is that FM3 carried over many of the body panel bugs that FM2 had which drove many painters crazy. So no lessons were made their. Online is actually worse on FM3 than it was on FM2 so it didnt improve that aspect neither and many other bugs aparently in photosharing are in the game. Multiscreen options has bugs and unfinished cockpits are aplenty. Not only that but the 400+ cars the game has is ruined by the fact that in each catagory only a few cars will allow the user to top the time sheets. This is limiting the competition between different cars so the PI scoring needed more refinement. Again this was a lesson not learned from their previous games.
Hold on yes T10 have and will no doubt release updates to help improve some things but many things could be better delt with or should have been noticed. Turn 10 dont seem to have the same level of commitment in delivering a product to the finished quality thats been as well tested as it could have. We could ask was FM3 rushed with Microsoft believing GT5 was due like everyone expected for last Christmas?
Its fair in my mind to see the faults the game has, to acknowledge them but to look accordingly at it as a complete product even compared to its predecessor. Basing it on its own merits and not what it may be up against in GT. Scoring it a 9 as some places scored it is being rather generous taking on board all its issues.
The previous linked article wasnt me bashing the franchise like a numpty but highlighting what others have noticed and the fact that reviews contained it seems no acknowledgement of these whatsoever or even minor flaws. We dont have to agree with everything he says of course but its obvious issues are their. Proof of the pudding is in the eating and as was noted FM3 hasnt maintained a high level of online play or certainly not one it should have. Could T10 of done a better job and is this title worthy to the hype it promised? How much of a true upgrade is it over FM2 in a racing simulation or as a racing game?
GT5 could be a massive dissapointment and if it has so many bugs or issues then P Digital deserve a right bashing considering the time involved in development. They do however set themselves apart as a developer. Just as an example look at the depth in detail to the cars, they produce much more accuracy of the fully modelled cockpits. So with upto 1000 cars clearly are prepared to go to lengths other companys will not. Some love that dedication others wont give it a second thought. Yet at the same time Forza fans will bash the trees or no skidmarks for fun.
Id rather have the aniamations of the gears, hands, drivers and the brillant usage of the aero wings which not a single other developer have implemented. Looking at the dedication involved we dont know what else the game will offer but its truely without being biased appearing as one of the most ambitious racing games ever. How the game is associated in the real wold auto industry, including various forms of racing and even striking exclusive content for media such as Top Gear is just examples of how GT as a franchise sets itself so easily above any other racing game franchise. This may not make it a truly better game but its easy to see why it gets adored by so many.
For me I dont recall waiting almost 6 years for any other game, ever...
Lets see what E3 brings.
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