TV Election debates - how are they doing?

The Mad Rapper said:
How can you say that? Cameron is completely unbelievable in every single way. He is such a phenomenal spin merchant - why can't you see that?

I would not trust him to tie my laces, let alone govern the country.
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Something tells me you approached this with a massively biased view. They are all spin merchants - it is their job. The person who appeared most fake to me tonight was in fact Clegg.

People need to remember you are voting for a PARTY - it is the PARTY politics and policies that matter not the personal opinion and ambitions of a single man. Cleggs policies and opinions don't quite gel with the rest of his party.

If you watched that 90mins back you'll see that Clegg was so busy convincing you he is your best mate that he doesn't actually provide any substance. Unfortunately he has rightly realised that this approached works with dumbed down Britain thanks to Labours 13 year rule.

A country is a business and it was "Clegg the junior salesman" vs "Cameron/Brown the experienced CEO's". And it showed.
 
JBod said:
Something tells me you approached this with a massively biased view. They are all spin merchants - it is their job. The person who appeared most fake to me tonight was in fact Clegg.

People need to remember you are voting for a PARTY - it is the PARTY politics and policies that matter not the personal opinion and ambitions of a single man. Cleggs policies and opinions don't quite gel with the rest of his party.

If you watched that 90mins back you'll see that Clegg was so busy convincing you he is your best mate that he doesn't actually provide any substance.

A country is a business and it was "Clegg the junior salesman" vs "Cameron/Brown the experienced CEO's". And it showed.
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Well said! :)
 
My problem with Clegg is the following. He leaned on "I'm the new guy" far too much. He then jumped off this platform and talked of change, something difference and it obviously seems to have stuck with the success he has achieved.

But as noted in his manifesto, his Policy in some area's isn't good at all. The people are going to go for him, thinking this is good change and potentially cause more harm than good. He may be good for electoral reform, some domestic policy. But his economic policy is poor, and his foreign idea's are not too good either.

Most people on the fence about who to vote for, just chose Nick Clegg based on that.
 
While walking down the street one day a "Member of Parliament" is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

'Welcome to heaven,' says St. Peter. 'Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you.'

'No problem, just let me in,' says the man.

'Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.'

'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the MP.

'I'm sorry, but we have our rules.'

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.

They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne.

Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly & nice guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises....

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.

'Now it's time to visit heaven.'

So, 24 hours pass with the MP joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

'Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.'

The MP reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.'

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. 'I don't understand,' stammers the MP. 'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.


What happened?'

The devil looks at him, smiles and says, 'Yesterday we were campaigning.. ...


Today you voted.'
 
meghatronic said:
Alas, to whom? To whom :(
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Anybody with clue.

You had the inexperienced guy trying to be your friend saying he doesn't want to play with the big boys, while you had the other two men acting like grown ups.

It utterly smacked of Clegg being unrealistic and not realising what running a country really entails.
 
And who's to say the CEO's are the best men for the job ?

( as has been proven over the last 300 years of major businesses going belly up )


Times change - and this debate has just re-inforced my view that the two main parties need to make some drastic changes to the way they are perceived.
 
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JBod said:
A country is a business and it was "Clegg the junior salesman" vs "Cameron/Brown the experienced CEO's". And it showed.
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Perhaps on your planet. Back here on Earth, Gordon's shot (or rather should be shot), and David and his Chancellor should still be at school.

If you really feel that the Conservative Party are worthy of running this country, then, with respect, it isn't me who has fallen for the spin.
 
Edinho said:
What do we need them for? Lets face it anyone nukes this country the world is ****ed anyway.
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Hear hear!

But if you think about it all we need is big empty black boxes and empty warehouses with 'NUCLEAR WEAPONS INSIDE' posters slapped on the side. That would be a better deterrent and would be cheap as chips.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Actually I chose him because I believe he'll do what he says. Simple really.
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Ok, even if you like Clegg and approved of his performance. Surely you cannot vote for a party that wants to get rid of our most powerful defence system?

All that talk of the cold war being over was just a distraction. A nuclear deterrent isn't there to be used - as the name suggests - it is there to deter other people from using theirs.

Mutual obliteration is the ONLY thing from stopping all out nuclear war, and those idiots want to remove it?

Do you have even the slightest clue how we are holding onto the world stage by our finger nails due to the paths that Labour have lead us down? Remove the Trident Defence System and all we will be as a country are those chaps with the bad teeth who once had the largest empire this world has ever seen... and threw it all away.
 
JBod said:
Ok, even if you like Clegg and approved of his performance. Surely you cannot vote for a party that wants to get rid of our most powerful defence system?

All that talk of the cold war being over was just a distraction. A nuclear deterrent isn't there to be used - as the name suggests - it is there to deter other people from using theirs.

Mutual obliteration is the ONLY thing from stopping all out nuclear war, and those idiots want to remove it?
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Our system does not deter rogue states ran by insane people like North Korea, nor does it assure destruction of countries like China and Russia, it could be scaled down considerably.
 
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