any chance of ocuk getting these in?

If they sold this I wouldnt hesitate buying it. It is a much better idea than an reservoir/pump combo. The vibrations of the pump slowly cracks the reservoir acrylic so a radiator/pump combo would amke more sense because it is solid metal :)
 
If your after something like that, you are better off looking at the main watercooling websites in the UK and europe.

But so far non of them have these in stock, so i guess it will be ahwile untill the hit the stores.
 
Wow, that looks really good. If that were available for a reasonable price it might actually push me over the watercooling for my new build. Have always been put off by the general inconvenience before, but that looks a great solution.
 
strumpusplunket said:
Wow, that looks really good. If that were available for a reasonable price it might actually push me over the watercooling for my new build. Have always been put off by the general inconvenience before, but that looks a great solution.
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Same here, but finding performance figures is a bit difficult.. wonder how it would compare with Swiftech's Ultima XT kit if you added an XT waterblock in with this.
 
I wonder if the pump is flush with one side of the radiator though,,,

If it isn't mounting will actually be very hard?
 
Remember the pump is a Laing DDC and I think it's the 18W version - MSP355 - if you get it included or you can buy the radiator without the pump but made to fit the pump. The radiator is essentially a standard MCR240/320QR which are very capable radiators. The main question is whether the pump/radiator junction is as effective as other after-market tops at increasing flow rates. If it permits good flow, then this will be a very effective combination.

As to the flushness of the pump to the radiator, look here to see that it is not flush. This rad/pump is designed to be mounted vertically with the pump at the bottom, or horizontally with the barbs facing upwards. With the barbs facing upwards, it would be almost impossible to put this in the roof of a case but then if that's what you want, you should not buy this. It's perfectly designed to go outside on the back. If you want different, don't buy it.
 
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Remember the pump is a Laing DDC and I think it's the 18W version - MSP355 - if you get it included or you can buy the radiator without the pump but made to fit the pump. The radiator is essentially a standard MCR240/320QR which are very capable radiators. The main question is whether the pump/radiator junction is as effective as other after-market tops at increasing flow rates. If it permits good flow, then this will be a very effective combination.
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Pump is MCP350, you can choose to have a MCP355 if you want but the 355 is apparently much louder so no good for silence so it says on the Swiftech site.

Looking what's been said, improvements are from less tubing, less fittings/joints so better flow and 1/2" tubing instead of 3/8".

No idea what difference that makes at all.

But if someone in the know can say whether it's classed as high end or near enough, that's good enough for me because of the simplicity of it.
 
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Rad itself is only 34mm, so still won't compete with the likes of Thermochill's and the like, but is'nt a bad rad, just will need higher rpm fans.
 
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Rad itself is only 34mm, so still won't compete with the likes of Thermochill's and the like, but is'nt a bad rad, just will need higher rpm fans.
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Less than 1c delta difference from mcr - thermochill, looking at graphs posted elsewhere. I cant see how that would really matter, so if thats the case lower rpm fans like 1200 or so should work almost as good as on a thermochill rad. The difference is basically almost negilible
 
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The simplicity of it that appeals and its size, less restriction and compact big selling points.
 
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Less than 1c delta difference from mcr - thermochill, looking at graphs posted elsewhere. I cant see how that would really matter, so if thats the case lower rpm fans like 1200 or so should work almost as good as on a thermochill rad. The difference is basically almost negilible
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Im not talking 1200rpm... more like 500rpm, the thicker rads are designed to work with really low spinning fans, the thiner ones need the fans running faster to have the same performance.

And i for one would prefer my rad fans running at 500rpm any day of the week compared to 1200rpm. But each to there own i guess.

Not knocking this new idea from swiftech, just stating that the thicker rads are better if you want quieter running.
 
How much difference will the lowered resistance due to less connections make? Also there are 140mm fan and thicker rad versions in the works so if these are not quite for you then hold out for the next wave of products. I really like these, not only are they going to outperform the all in one units with very little expertise needed but have the potential to outperform custom loops with the same size rad due to less connections.
 
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Im not talking 1200rpm... more like 500rpm, the thicker rads are designed to work with really low spinning fans, the thiner ones need the fans running faster to have the same performance.
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eh i thought 1200 rpm would be quiet anyway given the right fans, a 1450RPM gentle typhoon would work awesomely with these.

1000RPM+ fans would have all the rads perform basically the same anyway, and those are under 20db.. but i guess if you dont want to hear hardly anything at all then i suppose
 
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Yeh, some don't seem to mind 1000rpm +, but by god soon as u can cool effectily with your fans barely running, its like wowza lol.

Now saying that, if these where available, before i did my loop, i probably would have bought one, as i do agree certainly saves on space and the like.

Gotta love swiftech for coming with newer ideas, they get my applause.
 
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