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Never actually laughed at one thing I've watched him in.
My Mrs made me watch Ghost Town last week with him in. OMFG...she nearly became a ghost for having me sit through it, what a pile of dung
The Ricky Gervais Show : your opinions?
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Never actually laughed at one thing I've watched him in.
My Mrs made me watch Ghost Town last week with him in. OMFG...she nearly became a ghost for having me sit through it, what a pile of dung
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and I can't believe you think Karl is thick.
They sat down before a podcast, discuss some of the stuff they have wrote down and then turn the recording on.
I think it was when he was talking about a chameleon when I realised he had worked it out beforehand.
Very clever man.
I still don't know what a keyser soze is after 27 years
Well, there isnt an argument to be had about it, you are wrong, its as simple as that Karl is to all intents and purposes, a strange person.
As for Keyser Soze where its you who are pretending to be spectacularly dim (to what effect I dont know) here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyser_Söze
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No you are 100% wrong.
Karl has wrote many strange things down and Merchant & Gervais picked up on it early on and decided to put a show around it.
The evidence is all the material he has put out.
3 men don't walk into a studio, hit record and come out with excellent comedy on the spot unless the format has been worked out first. .
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exactly. i've never seen them say isn't it planned, just that is it unscripted, which is easy to do when it's all planned.
i agree that karl is smarter then he puts across. he pretends to be the dumb one with very crazy views on things and stephan and ricky are the smart ones playing with the silly kid, without him realising that they're taking the micky out of him.
it gets laughs and makes him rich. why do people think it's impossible to believe that he'll put that on?
when you say pretending to be dim, do you mean he's pretending to be dim as he hasn't yet googled to find out who this person is, or are you saying he's pretending to be dim as though he doesn't know who the person is? if it's the latter then i'd say you're the only 'dim' one here.
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and of course no man would ever sit down in real life and take the abuse that they give out unless it was an act and there's money to be made.
Just listening to them attacking him and him saying 'what I'm tring to say is' over and over just confirms it.
I suppose some of these believers also think that Karl believes his own Monkey News stories - whatever.
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That doesnt make any sense
dmpoole has this persona he effects when it comes to things like this, its usually saying things to the contrary with regards to films, or music, today he is choosing Karl Pilkington to see something that isnt there, Karl isnt a rocket scientist playing some half wit in an ironic fashion, he just says whatever comes into his head and it IS completely stupid.
With regards to Keyer soze, its just dmpoole being contrary again, I've not seen the usual suspects,but I know its a character portrayed by Kevin Spacey with an oscar winning performance, why? Because its been a pop culture reference for the past 15 years, its mentioned every time Keven spacey is interviewed, its a popular question in pub quizzes, its mentioned in movie reviews, internet forums, game reviews etc etc etc.
You would literally have to of been living under a rock to not know who or what those two words referenced.
I KNOW dmpoole doesnt live under a rock, I know he watches a lot of films, I know he spends a lot of time on the internet, I also have experience of him doing this before, look back to threads on District 9, and Shutter Island as just two recent examples.
I also know he doesnt need people to fight his battles for him, do you think he is going to be impressed and go out with you or something afterwards for sticking up for him?
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That doesnt make any sense
dmpoole has this persona he effects when it comes to things like this, its usually saying things to the contrary with regards to films, or music, today he is choosing Karl Pilkington to see something that isnt there, Karl isnt a rocket scientist playing some half wit in an ironic fashion, he just says whatever comes into his head and it IS completely stupid.
With regards to Keyer soze, its just dmpoole being contrary again, I've not seen the usual suspects,but I know its a character portrayed by Kevin Spacey with an oscar winning performance, why? Because its been a pop culture reference for the past 15 years, its mentioned every time Keven spacey is interviewed, its a popular question in pub quizzes, its mentioned in movie reviews, internet forums, game reviews etc etc etc.
You would literally have to of been living under a rock to not know who or what those two words referenced.
I KNOW dmpoole doesnt live under a rock, I know he watches a lot of films, I know he spends a lot of time on the internet, I also have experience of him doing this before, look back to threads on District 9, and Shutter Island as just two recent examples.
I also know he doesnt need people to fight his battles for him, do you think he is going to be impressed and go out with you or something afterwards for sticking up for him?
i'm not expecting him to go out with me, just maybe a few half naked pictures or something like that. going back to the dim thing, i posted in this thread first, so any "battle" i'm fighting for him would surely be the other way round?
i watch films, i use the internet, i know kevin spacey, i've seen plenty of his interviews, but i have no clue who this person is.
didn't realise you are the karl pilkington. as you're i think it's safe to say then that you're dim as i said earlier. if you're not, i think it's safe to say you're dim to be so sure that karl is completely stupid given the circumstances.
i get the impression from this thread that you're a little too sure of yourself and don't like it when people don't agree with your claims.
Just as I thought. Garbage. I get the feeling you're just here to provoke a reaction and your knowledge on the subject is quite shallow. However since your first contribution to this thread was declaring a huge majority of the forum 'Idiots', I have a spare few minutes...
Firstly, your right, 3 men don't walk into a studio, hit record and come out with excellent comedy'. The first season which Karl produced of the XFM shows, back in 2001, he said virtually NOTHING. The second season, he maybe contributed 2/3 times in a show, and it was then we/Ricky started to pick up on his quite special personality. The real comedy factor back then was Karl's sporadic interventions into the show, the very timid way he would blurt out the most outrageous nonsense, which most of the time had absolutely nothing to do with anything features that Ricky and Steve had set up for the show. Over the next 3 seasons Karl gradually played a more important part in the show, with his own competitions/anecdotes/tales of his childhood. My point here is, that the Karl that you listen to/see on tv today is absolutely nothing like the one that started producing the shows ten years ago. To the people who actually know a bit about the subject, and have listened to the shows where Karl made this slow transition between mere producer to comedic psychopath, there isn't even a doubt about it.
This brings me to my next point. The material on the cartoon show, and pretty much most the recent 'popular' iTunes podcasts, is all old stuff regurgitated time after time from the early days of XFM. That is why I know its not fake. It's all stories that we have heard over and over about his upbringing, his family, his beliefs, his Auntie Nora. If its scripted, why don't they just keep writing new material?
I think what really confuses you, is that how can it all be so funny and so perfectly structured as a comedic performance if its not scripted? Well, the answer to that is a combination of both my previous points. The three of them have worked together for almost 10 years now, the have heard every story going, and the chemistry between them is undeniable. Ricky/Steve know exactly what buttons to push and when to push them to get the most out of Karl, yeah he's a funny guy and all that but on his own (there are numerous interviews with him/even on the 'something for the weekend' the other week) and he really is a quiet, subdued person. His is not a comedian.
Add to that the countless times Ricky and Steve have been asked about the legitimacy of Karl, and him being a comic creation by the pair, every single time they have profusely denied.
Not that I need any proper evidence, in an interview with Steve about the show, he was asked if they are ever going to have any guests on the show-
Steve said:
I'm not even going start on his books, I could go on and on and on and on....
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One thing I'd suggest may lead people to think it's all put on would be how he doesn't really react to Ricky or Steve laughing at him or calling him stupid constantly.
Although, saying that, there have been a few times where he's just gone "forget it" or "doesn't matter".
I think they said on the podcasts once, it would be impossible to script everything on XFM and the podcasts because of the time it would take. It took them a year or two to write The Office. And there's about 36 hours worth of XFM material, 5 seasons of the podcasts and a series of Guides To...
There's simply no way they could script all that material every week, while writing The Office, Extras and his films and books.
There's simply no way they could script all that material every week, while writing The Office, Extras and his films and books.
If Karl was in this for the money by acting as this 'character' then he would have taken an active role in selling his books. There's one podcast where Ricky is having a go at Karl for being idle by not appearing on TV and what not to talk about his, at the time recently released book. Karl was just saying not to worry about it as 'people will find it' and 'I wrote the book for myself, just for something to do'. That isn't what someone who's in it for the money would do.
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Loved The Office and Extras but thought the first two episodes of this were pretty poor and unimaginative. I say unimaginative because having a drink with my mates down the pub usually results in conversations I find funnier.
Listened to the podcasts a bunch of times, Karls misunderstanding regarding giving a goat as a gift was brilliant and Monkey News never fails to get a laugh out of me.
Gervais does have a habbit of recycling material though, he still uses jokes he was telling on the eleven oclock show in his standup and extras (particularly season 2) was loaded with stuff from the podcasts.
I think the XFM shows are my favourite of the audio stuff though, the way Karl transforms into a goldmine of oddness with Rockbusters getting more ridiculous each week and the building tension between him and Steve in series 2 gives rise to some great arguments.
Gervais does have a habbit of recycling material though, he still uses jokes he was telling on the eleven oclock show in his standup and extras (particularly season 2) was loaded with stuff from the podcasts.
I think the XFM shows are my favourite of the audio stuff though, the way Karl transforms into a goldmine of oddness with Rockbusters getting more ridiculous each week and the building tension between him and Steve in series 2 gives rise to some great arguments.
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You really should wake up to the genius that Karl Pilkingtn is and not the crap that Gervais as you believe.
Some of the stuff Karl comes out with has been worked out before they hit record.
The bloke has written books so he knows what he's doing.
He was also their PRODUCER and anybody who studies production will tell you how hard it is to reach those heights.
Karl is not dim and you've all been had.
The first time I heard about Pilkington I checked him out and his background does not equal the character the three of them have made.
I've also read Merchants and Gervais explanation of the Karl character and choose not to believe most of it.
Some of the stuff Karl comes out with has been worked out before they hit record.
The bloke has written books so he knows what he's doing.
He was also their PRODUCER and anybody who studies production will tell you how hard it is to reach those heights.
Karl is not dim and you've all been had.
The first time I heard about Pilkington I checked him out and his background does not equal the character the three of them have made.
I've also read Merchants and Gervais explanation of the Karl character and choose not to believe most of it.
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Haha is that meant to be ironic? You may have more in common with Karl than you think. Thats's a sig worthy quote right there.
Like what? Wait a minute, your not having us all on here are you? All of a sudden I'm having my own doubts about your legitimacy.