The Ricky Gervais Show : your opinions?

trentlad said:
I tell you what mate, super big text in this forum can find it.
Yeah that's a challenge.

I've tried hunting it down but to no avail. The audiobook is called 'Karlology' and the sample given in first the youtube video above is the only thing I can find (even on iTunes it's just the same audio sample).
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I can't quite remember, but is there a complete audiobook of him reading it? I thought was just a few samples he produced/forced to do to promote it.

Anyway don't be lazy, just buy the real book and read it :D

*EDIT* Well all the threads on the Pilkipedia forum about it are dead, and have been for about a year. So doesn't look like there is/was ever one...
 
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Digitalle said:
I can't quite remember, but is there a complete audiobook of him reading it? I thought was just a few samples he produced/forced to do to promote it.

Anyway don't be lazy, just buy the real book and read it :D

*EDIT* Well all the threads on the Pilkipedia forum about it are dead, and have been for about a year. So doesn't look like there is/was ever one...
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See I'd normally never touch an audiobook but this is truly the exception, when I heard the audio sample for this I genuinely saw how audiobooks could be a good reason for a person who normally reads books.

How funny is it hearing him reading it out. It's like his poems, Merchent tried to read them out on the podcasts and they were dull but Pilkington started to read them and BOOM it was instant comedy.
 
There's another thing I have to add.

A lot of people say that Karl should just go and do things himself but there's no way he'd be half as funny without Gervais and Merchant taking the **** out of him.

Granted the little TV movies following him are hilarious but give him anothing more than 10 minute alone and it would get boring. It's the way Gervais and Merchant take the **** out of him.

Also to dmpoole; Karl hates the public reaction to any of his content and that's why we barely get to hear his voice or see his head shaped like a ****** orange.
 
Rubbish imo most of his material was old stuff from his stand up tours.

He needs to get back to writing
 
C64 said:
Rubbish imo most of his material was old stuff from his stand up tours.

He needs to get back to writing
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Wrong way round. Most of the audio track for the animated show is many years old, which was the main inspiration for his stand up tours.
 
Karl is not fake imo. People have been saying how if he was real he wouldn't take all the stick. Well there have been several times when he has got way annoyed and stopped doing stuff. Not to mention he let Ricky pop a champagne cork on his head lol.
 
fus said:
dmpoole is at his best in this thread.
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Because you know I tell the truth and anybody who thinks Karl is for real must be having a mindwarp.
On the way back from Luxor I decided to listen to the new (old) podcasts that they've now made into a cartoon (I had the first six) and once again listening to the interaction proves Karl is just a character.
The way he just goes through his story while deflecting insults like Superman deflecting bullets wouldn't happen if it's for real.
He would stop but he just takes no notice of them and carries on which is obviously the way it's been discussed.
And if people think that Karl believes his Monkey News stories then there's no hope.
It's an act.
 
Mate, you need to put down the podcasts. They're repeats of the Xfm show, so of course it sounds orchestrated!!!

Get the Xfm shows, listen to anything from the first season then tell us he's a character. You gotta remember, there's a ton of difference between common sense and intelligence. Which one do you think Karl lacks.

I love it when people expose themselves to 0.0001% of content and are prepared to fight to the bone about it. I also love how you just completely ignored Digitalle's fine point.


Digitalle said:
Firstly, your right, 3 men don't walk into a studio, hit record and come out with excellent comedy'. The first season which Karl produced of the XFM shows, back in 2001, he said virtually NOTHING. The second season, he maybe contributed 2/3 times in a show, and it was then we/Ricky started to pick up on his quite special personality. The real comedy factor back then was Karl's sporadic interventions into the show, the very timid way he would blurt out the most outrageous nonsense, which most of the time had absolutely nothing to do with anything features that Ricky and Steve had set up for the show. Over the next 3 seasons Karl gradually played a more important part in the show, with his own competitions/anecdotes/tales of his childhood. My point here is, that the Karl that you listen to/see on tv today is absolutely nothing like the one that started producing the shows ten years ago.
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dmpoole said:
Because you know I tell the truth and anybody who thinks Karl is for real must be having a mindwarp.
On the way back from Luxor I decided to listen to the new (old) podcasts that they've now made into a cartoon (I had the first six) and once again listening to the interaction proves Karl is just a character.
The way he just goes through his story while deflecting insults like Superman deflecting bullets wouldn't happen if it's for real.
He would stop but he just takes no notice of them and carries on which is obviously the way it's been discussed.
And if people think that Karl believes his Monkey News stories then there's no hope.
It's an act.
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Who cares if it is an act? They way you keep droning on about it is enough to put any newcomer off it. What are you trying to prove? If someone believes Karl is real, what hope do you have to convince them otherwise?
 
trentlad said:
Mate, you need to put down the podcasts. They're repeats of the Xfm show, so of course it sounds orchestrated!!!
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I probably heard the XFM shows before you and have listened to them repeatedly.
The podcasts are exactly the same as the XFM show but obviously in a different order (or are they?).

RihannasRudeBoy said:
Who cares if it is an act? They way you keep droning on about it is enough to put any newcomer off it. What are you trying to prove? If someone believes Karl is real, what hope do you have to convince them otherwise?
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Exactly my point, it doesn't matter if its an act because no matter how many times you listen to the XFM podcasts they are hilarious because of the planning & preperation of them.
However I offered my OPINION (look at the thread title) that I'm 100% positive its an act and others try to make me look a fool because they think it's for real.
I know I'm right and you only have to listen to the way he talks, how he says it and how the other 2 react.
It's brilliant comedy writing in my opinion and the type of thing that Gervais & Merchant are famous for.

trentlad said:
I love it when people expose themselves to 0.0001% of content and are prepared to fight to the bone about it. I also love how you just completely ignored Digitalle's fine point.
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I didn't ignore his fine points because I heard them from Merchant & Gervais themselves and I'm a fan of all 3 of them.
I think it speaks for itself when they say that during the 3rd season karl got more active - yes because they started writing better material for him.
 
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dmpoole said:
I heard them from Merchant & Gervais themselves and I'm a fan of all 3 of them.
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Sorry mate. Hope you didn't think I was calling you dumb, that certainly wasn't my intention.

So you're an actual fan, wow, I had you all wrong. Hehe, imagine having this conversation in person.
 
Digitalle said:
I can't quite remember, but is there a complete audiobook of him reading it? I thought was just a few samples he produced/forced to do to promote it.
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You know what, that's a really good question. See and that's another reason why I had trouble believing that Skippi90 had found the illegal version of it.

I bet he didn't find the full audiobook, I bet it's an eBook.

Amirite Skippi90?
 
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trentlad said:
Sorry mate. Hope you didn't think I was calling you dumb, that certainly wasn't my intention.

So you're an actual fan, wow, I had you all wrong. Hehe, imagine having this conversation in person.
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No, just like you, I heard them talking about the Karl character through the media quite a long time ago.
Merchant & Gervais's talent is creating believable characters and no doubt they exploited Pilkingtons stupid ideas and then all 3 wrote some better material for him.
The more I hear the XFM podcasts the more I can hear the little faults.
One I was listening to yesterday they were talking about 'Tribes' and Pilkington went a little too far with his stupid replies
He was also talking about the monkey that helped the zoo keeper and then went home and shagged his wife.
Honestly if people think Karl believes this stuff then they need to get some brain cells.
There was also the New York monkey that they dress in a little suit and he goes in and rescues people and so on.
Great comedy but planned.
 
dmpoole said:
I probably heard the XFM shows before you and have listened to them repeatedly.
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Sorry but that reeks of 'Im older than you therefore inherently wiser'

dmpoole said:
However I offered my OPINION (look at the thread title) that I'm 100% positive its an act and others try to make me look a fool because they think it's for real.
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As for US making YOU look like a fool...na I'm not buying that-

dmpoole said:
I feel sorry for the idiots...
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dmpoole said:
No you are 100% wrong...
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*EDIT* Let me just add that one in :p
dmpoole said:
Honestly if people think Karl believes this stuff then they need to get some brain cells.
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Yes you shared you opinions, but they seem to be based more on force/YOU WILL BELIEVE WHAT I'M SAYING OR I WILL INSULT YOU than any real structured argument (which I think is something to do with how Karl doesn't react to being called an idiot by Steve and Ricky? Am I right, is that it?)

However, personally I think your observations are really interesting. I can honestly say I have never, nor has anyone Iv spoke to about the shows, even considered the possibility of them being scripted/preplanned. I still think they aren't and that its a load of nonsense, but after listening to a fair chunk of them again last night, I kinda see where you're coming from and at a few points did doubt myself. Either way I really don't care, the XFM shows/podcast/all the material the three have done I hold in the same regard as 'The Office'. They were not scripted and so they have pretty much exhausts everything they could from Karl, meaning there will never be any more (well maybe a few more 'Guides to'). Scripted or not they are damn enjoyable to listen to, and if you get more enjoyment out of them while under the illusion they are scripted, who am I to say otherwise.

I just think that a user with 25,000+ posts and umpteen years of experience on the forums, would have a better grasp on how to conduct himself.
 
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Digitalle said:
Sorry but that reeks of 'Im older than you therefore inherently wiser'
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Absolutely not, I heard the XFM broadcasts as they happened which a 1 year old could have done.
It did take me a couple of broadcasts before I realised it was planned.
Remember that many people also thought the Office was for real.
Gervais was unknown (he had been on the 11 o'clock news CH4!!) and Radio Times billed it as a 'fly on the wall documentary inside a typical office'.
Me and the wife watched a lot of these programmes and it was about 10 minutes before I recognised the bloke, ran to the internet and realised it was a comedy.
Many people at work the following day just thought it was a strange documentary before I explained who Gervais was.
Of course there will be those who got it straight away - I admit it took me 10 minutes.
This is what Gervais (and Merchant) do, create characters and Karl is one of the best.
 
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