English & European Football [24th - 29th Apr 2010] spoilers

atpbx · 25 Apr 2010 at 21:24

BaZ87 said:
Regardless of whether we beat Madrid or not, there's nothing stopping us playing who we like on Sunday. After playing 4 games in 14 days and with all the traveling we can easily claim fatigue etc.

And even if we didn't get away with it, what punishment will we get? A suspended fine like Wolves got.

I would not be surprised to see a suspended points deduction should liverpool field a joke side next weekend in all seriousness.

BaZ87 · 25 Apr 2010 at 21:28

I don't see how anything could be done about it. Nothing's happened to Fulham this season and all Wolves got was a suspended fine. Even in '07 when we left out half our side vs Fulham which resulted in them staying up, clubs complained but nothing was done.

As I said, we can easily put any team selection down to fatigue after the last couple of weeks.

JohnnyG · 25 Apr 2010 at 21:46

atpbx said:
I would not be surprised to see a suspended points deduction should liverpool field a joke side next weekend in all seriousness.

They've fielded a joke side all season without any punishment so what makes you think they'll get any if they do so again on Sunday?

Robbo · 25 Apr 2010 at 21:53

JohnnyG said:
They've fielded a joke side all season without any punishment so what makes you think they'll get any if they do so again on Sunday?

Indeed.

I'm fairly sure Liverpool will get beaten hard like the mid-table side they are

Saying that, I hope they do field a good side and they can potentially squeeze Chelsea for a draw, although its unlikely.

Jigga · 25 Apr 2010 at 22:10

went to the liverpool game today the first half was poor after dirk kuyt went off in the second half we scored 4 goals

kuyt and babel first touch today was poor at their best carra played good and was really helping ayala out talking to him all the time about position play , maxi had a good game also their should be something interesting coming out on in the papers in the next couple of days i think you might be able to guess what burnley fans were singing to gerrard and him clapping when taking a corner he played better after he scored a deflection

Azza · 25 Apr 2010 at 22:44

Hahahaa Rodger Johnson, well said lad.

Ref's have been amazingly bad for a month or two now, more so than usual.

nikebee · 25 Apr 2010 at 23:12

Watching sky sports news, wtf is O'Neil on about it not being a penalty in the Villa/B'ham game? :confused:

Surprised Kalou was still on the field after that two footed challenge on the keeper in the Chelsea game as well... pretty shocking challenge, not sure how he didn't pick up a card :confused:

Azza · 25 Apr 2010 at 23:15

O'Neil is crazy, all he moans about is not getting luck, blah blah and when he does get some luck it's just shocking refereeing, more so than the odd occasion when it's bad refereeing that doesn't give him the luck he's after.

The guy talks out his ass.

nikebee · 26 Apr 2010 at 00:05

Tell me about it... He said it's a penalty, a clear penalty and that it doesn't matter the guy got the ball, he brought him down after he got the ball so it's a penalty.

I mean what the hell is he talking about?

Unless it's an absolutely two footed, high, reckless challenge... if you get the ball, you get the ball... end of story :confused:

Pigeon_Killer · 26 Apr 2010 at 00:26

That's sadly not the case anymore. A lot of fair ball winning challenges that end with a player being brought down are penalised nowadays. People are right when they call tackling an art because unless it's perfect you won't get away with it

Rotty · 26 Apr 2010 at 00:26

nikebee said:
Watching sky sports news, wtf is O'Neil on about it not being a penalty in the Villa/B'ham game?

Surprised Kalou was still on the field after that two footed challenge on the keeper in the Chelsea game as well... pretty shocking challenge, not sure how he didn't pick up a card

Agree, goal should have been disallowed and a red card given

Caseh · 26 Apr 2010 at 00:40

nikebee said:
Tell me about it... He said it's a penalty, a clear penalty and that it doesn't matter the guy got the ball, he brought him down after he got the ball so it's a penalty.

I mean what the hell is he talking about?

Unless it's an absolutely two footed, high, reckless challenge... if you get the ball, you get the ball... end of story

He won the ball, but if he didn't take Gabby down afterwards, he would have still got the ball, or had a chance to. Therefore, taking him out afterwards, is what actually stopped his run.

Now if he went in, won the ball and knocked it out for a corner, or just knocked it out of reach for him, fair enough - He won the ball, good tackle. But he didn't, so I think it is a clear penalty.

Andybtsn · 26 Apr 2010 at 02:08

I feel sick about next weekend already. Make or break for Leeds and it's against a good opposition, away.

Charlton (5th) vs Leeds (2nd)
Tranmere (21st) Vs Millwall (3rd)

Leeds (2nd) vs Bristol R (9th)
Millwall (3rd) Vs Swindon (4th)

Scary times. I have only put Millwall's fixtures as I can't see Swindon pipping them and us to automatic now.

Tranmere fighting for their life so they should be tough opposition for Millwall.

xxalxx · 26 Apr 2010 at 09:28

I think Rafa + the owners should say "It would be shame if Chelsea did not win the league, as they are a brilliant side" just to wind up Fergie.

mmj_uk · 26 Apr 2010 at 09:53

[Cas];16435396 said:
He won the ball, but if he didn't take Gabby down afterwards, he would have still got the ball, or had a chance to. Therefore, taking him out afterwards, is what actually stopped his run.

Now if he went in, won the ball and knocked it out for a corner, or just knocked it out of reach for him, fair enough - He won the ball, good tackle. But he didn't, so I think it is a clear penalty.

That was my thought too...

He didn't really deflect it enough to stop Agbonlahor keeping hold of the ball and getting a cross in, so following through on him even after contact with the ball still stopped a goal scoring opportunity.

Spunj99 · 26 Apr 2010 at 09:53

Rotty said:
Agree, goal should have been disallowed and a red card given

I'm not arsed about yesterdays result because I'd rather see Chelski win the league than "Utd" at the end of the day.

However I am still incensed by Kalou practically ending Sorensens international career and walking away smiling, with a goal, and with a hat-trick at the end of the day. :confused:

EDIT: apparently it's not as bad as it could have been as they managed to "pop" the elbow back in (ow) thus avoiding surgery so he should be ok for the WC

Caseh · 26 Apr 2010 at 09:57

Spunj99 said:
However I am still incensed by Kalou practically ending Sorensens international career and walking away smiling, with a goal, and with a hat-trick at the end of the day.

Yeah, because he knew about it.

Kalou went in to score, and did so fairly. Sorensen was just very unlucky.

antijoke · 26 Apr 2010 at 10:26

Really don't see how people can see that we (Liverpool) will finish fourth. And I really want Chelsea to the win this year, for obvious reasons.

And also the fact they clearly deserve it for an awesome season as well.

ron3003 · 26 Apr 2010 at 10:40

Sorensen already suffered an identical injury ie dislocated elbow back in 2002 so there's probably a weakness in there. The contact didn't seem that hard to cause the reported damage and by all accounts they've 'popped' it back in.

Robbo · 26 Apr 2010 at 13:06

Sky Sports said:
Manchester City have made a formal request to the Premier League over an emergency goalkeeper loan.

Manchester City may ask to recall goalkeeper Joe Hart but, under rules, there is a 'no-recall clause' in his contract because he joined Birmingham on a season-long loan.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11679_6117602,00.html

Birmingham won't be very happy about that, wonder if they will be allowed to recall him

English & European Football [24th - 29th Apr 2010] **spoilers**

English & European Football [24th - 29th Apr 2010] spoilers