The Nokia 5800 Express Media (Tube) Thread

shauncr91 said:
anyone flashed cooked firmware on Windows 7 ? Following a guide on DM and getting lots of problems.
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I have had nothing but trouble trying to do it with windows 7.
i just gave up in the end and used my lil eeepc to do it.
technically you could VM it and do it that way... as long as the VM of XP can see your usb

O and btw, I have been using this CFW. it seems very good so far.
http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php/topic,21194.0.html
 
I used win7 64 bit ultimate with no problems. Using jaf, etc.

One thing i did have to do was set the compatability of jaf and the emulator to win xp sp2 mode.
 
TheCrowUk said:
I used win7 64 bit ultimate with no problems. Using jaf, etc.

One thing i did have to do was set the compatability of jaf and the emulator to win xp sp2 mode.
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My list of phones has less models listed than the guide, and when I select the nokia 5800 it doesn't detect the firmware which is in the right directory :confused:
 
Use Nemesis Service Suite. It's a hell of a lot better than the other crap like Jar, etc. So easy to use its laughable. Works with xp, vista and 7 x86 and x64
 
Managed to get mine working, had trouble getting JAF to recognise the phone, but removed the cable driver and re-installed it from the nokia website, all done and dusted.
 
Since putting v40 on the phone i seem to have problems making phone calls, i press to call, screen flicks then just goes back to the contact. Also my Internet doesnt seem to work when i am using 3g etc rather than wifi.

Anyone else had these problems?
 
Have you done a hard reset?

Always best to do it after a firmware flash, use ovi suit to back up all your files, do a hard reset, restore files.

Turn phone off, hold down red + green + camera + power button until you see the hands shake on the screen, this will reset everything back to factory settings but with the new firmware you have installed.
 
I got myself one of these recently, my first smartphone and I'm quite impressed.

I'm a bit lost with GPS, so a few questions for anyone in the know; If I'm using Google Maps, the little blue icon which represents my location moves wherever I do, and updates every second or so. How is it doing this? Is it using GPS? If so, does GPS use my internet connection? What is A-GPS? I've read that this uses the internet connection, but how do I know when it is using A-GPS or normal GPS? Can I specify it not to use my internet connection? Will this affect the speed at which the blue icon updates? Is the GPS service free? Can I go abroad and use GPS with my phone without having to connect to the internet and face the hideous charges associated?

Cheers. :)
 
Smithy said:
I got myself one of these recently, my first smartphone and I'm quite impressed.

I'm a bit lost with GPS, so a few questions for anyone in the know; If I'm using Google Maps, the little blue icon which represents my location moves wherever I do, and updates every second or so. How is it doing this? Is it using GPS? If so, does GPS use my internet connection? What is A-GPS? I've read that this uses the internet connection, but how do I know when it is using A-GPS or normal GPS? Can I specify it not to use my internet connection? Will this affect the speed at which the blue icon updates? Is the GPS service free? Can I go abroad and use GPS with my phone without having to connect to the internet and face the hideous charges associated?

Cheers. :)
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GPS doesn't inherently use data. It can work without a data connection.

A-GPS works by finding out your approximate location (based on which cell tower you are connected to) and then gives your inbuilt GPS device data (recieved by a data connection) so that it gets a lock quicker.

It simply speeds up how long it takes to get a lock through a small packet of data. You can turn AGPS off and it will use the GPS device on its own.

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I was curious about how assistance actually took place, and wikipedia says this

Assistance falls into two categories:

Using information known to the assistance server but not the GPS receiver

-It can supply orbital data or almanac for the GPS satellites to the GPS receiver, enabling the GPS receiver to lock to the satellites more rapidly in some cases.
-The network can provide precise time.
-The device captures a snapshot of the GPS signal, with approximate time, for the server to later process into a position.[2]
-Accurate, surveyed coordinates for the cell site towers allow better knowledge of local ionospheric conditions and other conditions affecting the GPS signal than the GPS receiver alone, enabling more precise calculation of position. (See also Wide Area Augmentation System and CellHunter.)

Calculation of position by the server using information from the GPS receiver

-The assistance server has a good satellite signal, and plentiful computation power, so it can compare fragmentary signals relayed to it by GPS receivers, with the satellite signal it receives directly, and then inform the GPS receiver or emergency services of the GPS receiver's position.
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If A-GPS is enabled, will it automatically attempt to use a data connection? So far through using Google maps and Nokia's maps application, I haven't once been prompted for a connection. Does this mean that A-GPS isn't being used, or that it's automatically using my T-Mobile connection?

I'd rather it prompt me about using a connection, especially when I'm abroad.
 
Smithy said:
If A-GPS is enabled, will it automatically attempt to use a data connection? So far through using Google maps and Nokia's maps application, I haven't once been prompted for a connection. Does this mean that A-GPS isn't being used, or that it's automatically using my T-Mobile connection?

I'd rather it prompt me about using a connection, especially when I'm abroad.
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I had my 5800 about 8 months ago now and so can't remember the settings exactly. But if you turn data roaming off (if such a settings exists) it should be fine. At least that's what the case would be on my current phone.

You can check if A-GPS is one if you haven't already. Again, I've forgotten the menus.
 
My mum is going to get this phone today. She had never used a touch screen phone before and is a bit of techo phobe (got the phone for free). Anyway, am I right in thinking the branded versions come with a much older firmware? I have briefly used a 5800 before and seemed alright. Basically I want to make this phone up to date (if it requires flashing, is it safe and easy? Can it be reversed?) and as easy to use as possible. What apps do people recommend for a middle aged woman with no previous modern/touch screen phone experience? Thanks :)
 
xibinim said:
My mum is going to get this phone today. She had never used a touch screen phone before and is a bit of techo phobe (got the phone for free). Anyway, am I right in thinking the branded versions come with a much older firmware? I have briefly used a 5800 before and seemed alright. Basically I want to make this phone up to date (if it requires flashing, is it safe and easy? Can it be reversed?) and as easy to use as possible. What apps do people recommend for a middle aged woman with no previous modern/touch screen phone experience? Thanks :)
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I'd probably get her to sell it and get a more conventional phone. The resistive touch screen is pretty frustrating at times on the 5800 (making texting terrible), and battery life isn't great.

If she just wants to send a few texts and make calls, get her something like a Nokia 6300.
 
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