Poll: The Last Leaders Debate – Live tonight at 2030 BST on BBC One
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Watching Cameron go around a school right now, I think we are breeding a generation of stupid people.
When he asked a boy how to spell a few words, Instead of saying the individual letters he spouted some sounds that just broke the word down to individual sounds. WTF??????
Is this the state of schools now? Is this how we're teaching them? The sooner Tories get in and clean up the mess the better
When he asked a boy how to spell a few words, Instead of saying the individual letters he spouted some sounds that just broke the word down to individual sounds. WTF??????
Is this the state of schools now? Is this how we're teaching them? The sooner Tories get in and clean up the mess the better
Why do people keep on saying this?
Anthony Barber actually apologised to Denis Healey for leaving the economy in such a mess, when Healey took office in 1974.Phonics. Meant to be an easier way to learn how to read. My daughter is learning the same way. However for the kids that are reasonably bright they are also giving them word flash cards and teaching them how to read in the more traditional way (i.e. word recognition). Phonics is better at teaching kids of all abilities to read while word recognition seems to be better for brighter kids as they learn faster and can also read faster.
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Dumbing down to the lowest common denominator is the way schools are these days. Thanks nuLabour...
Is that a joke? Has to be right? The tories are just as bad if not worse!!
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but did anyone watch Question Time where some muppet complained that the party leaders and members of parties were reiterating points from their manifestos, as if that was a bad thing?
People complain that policies aren't being discussed enough, and then this...
People complain that policies aren't being discussed enough, and then this...
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The better the devil you know argument is a fallacy and employed only by stupid people.
You are selecting between three managers here. That is all. In reality, little is going to change. Things will change in inches over a parliament.
It is always in the interest of the voter to throw out the government after 2-3 terms. The old incumbent government has no choice but to stick to its failed ideas and policies to save face.
A vote for Labour is a vote for economic incompetence, government waste on scales we have never seen before, a squandered investment opportunity of a lifetime, an NHS that is being torn to pieces with targets and red tape, lies and deceit, declining schools, sloppy legislation, civil liberties being destroyed on an industrial scale, a debt bombshell from 'off the book debt' (PFI) and stealth tax after stealth tax.
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How did he "fail" completely under those attacks?
The only stupid person would be the one that thought that was the argument I was employing.
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I enjoyed the first debate but the bickering and contradicting each other on this latest one got old pretty quick
"we are the only party that are strong on this subject"
"no we are the only party that are strong on this subject"
"no actually we are the only party that are strong on this subject"
does not "win the debate"
"we are the only party that are strong on this subject"
"no we are the only party that are strong on this subject"
"no actually we are the only party that are strong on this subject"
does not "win the debate"
Tories were always going to win no matter what. It's not a good thing, people are just picking the lesser of 3 wrongs. It shows you how messed up the British voting system and its voters are.
Out of what we've got I'd agree that Tories are our best option, but not because they're a great party, because out of the 3 parties 'truly' presented they're the ones I have the least problems with. Is that right? Not really. Can I do anything about it? Not really.
Give the UK a blank canvas and properly showcase 5-10 different parties with people voting for what they actually believe in and things would actually change.
Out of what we've got I'd agree that Tories are our best option, but not because they're a great party, because out of the 3 parties 'truly' presented they're the ones I have the least problems with. Is that right? Not really. Can I do anything about it? Not really.
Give the UK a blank canvas and properly showcase 5-10 different parties with people voting for what they actually believe in and things would actually change.
Using better education techniques is wrong and will result in a shortage of skilled workers
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I say, vote Tory to get the budget cuts we need, then they'll be out of power for a generation.
Win / win!
Win / win!
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Ok then, if that is not the arguement you are using how do you justify mandating 13 years of what I listed above?The only stupid person would be the one that thought that was the argument I was employing.
It's proven to be a superb method of teaching.
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I'm (skim-)reading through them just now, I've finished the Liberal Democrats, halfway through the Conservatives and shortly to start the Labour one. So far I've seen some good ideas and policies that I can support from both but I'm still leaning towards the Lib Dems, while some of their policies are unrealistic they're not likely to be able to press through with many of them and in the event of a slim majority for any party or a hung Parliament there should be enough checks placed on the more objectionable policies to prevent them coming to pass.
Just from the page I'm on when they've got sentences such as this "But Britain is slipping down the world league tables in reading, Maths and Science, and violence in the classroom is a serious problem." in their manifesto then I wouldn't be convinced they'll clean it up too well. Why are maths and science capitalised yet reading is not (I'd argue none of them should be). The point about violence in the classroom should be a separate sentence since it has nothing to do with the preceding content unless Britain is also slipping down the World league tables with regard to violence in the classroom.
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Using better education techniques is wrong and will result in a shortage of skilled workers
Maybe robgmun is confusing things. In 1997 when Labour came in, they abolished the practice of learning to speak/read using synthetic phonetics for analytical phonetics. They had no scientific backing for this and changed it for the hell of it.
Queue a generation of kids not being able to pronounce things properly and being very slow readers, they find that synthetics was, after all, the best way to do it.
In 2007 they reversed their decision. Only recently (months) have the majority of schools began to switch back.
It is another disgusting example of 'relentless reforms without evidence'. The sad thing this it has held thousands of kids back as well as wasted a whole lot of cash.
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