Gordon Brown Tonight
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Not handling hecklers definitely looks bad. Wasn't sure from your post if you though LibDem/Tories weren't guilty of staging meetings too.
Ultima-bias coming out here I expect, but I didn't think he did too badly. There were a couple of things he said that shocked me (in a bad way), but on the whole I thought he did ok. Also, I thought that Jeremy had a somewhat lighter touch when he interviewed Gordon, than when he did David and Nick.
I think Nick was easily the worst out of the three, he really didn't hold up well. David performed a lot better than I expected, he started off fairly poorly, but got better as the interview progressed, and at the end I thought he'd done ok.
I think Nick was easily the worst out of the three, he really didn't hold up well. David performed a lot better than I expected, he started off fairly poorly, but got better as the interview progressed, and at the end I thought he'd done ok.
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in my opinion the only reason lib/conserve dealt with the hecklers was because it looks bad if they don't, not because they felt they should. labour not dealing with them is fine, if not better that they don't as why would they want to encourage people to do it more and get in the way of the reason for the meeting, e.g. brown wants to meet the nhs staff and thank them, then heckler comes in a brown now has to deal with that person and hasn't got time to thank all the staff, and now the news isn't about the great job nhs staff do, but the heckler.
heckling is fine, just there is a time and a place for it for a time and a place not for it. i think politicians are too scared to say this and have to either deal with it or look bad
Look at it this way, Brown has caused a lot of the issues in this country and not dealt with them - he will get thrown out of Downing St as a result.
I thought Brown was very good. I don't believe any of the big problems we've had could have been averted by Brown's actions, nor was he the cause of them.
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This is nonsense.
Lib Dem > Labour > Conservative for me.
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This is nonsense.
Lib Dem > Labour > Conservative for me.
But Blair, Cameron, Clegg would have stopped the security from kicking him out and let him have his say as they know that would make them look bad. Gordon Brown is the King of excrement and thank god he'll be out of office on thursday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Nhgvgh4Vo&feature=player_embedded
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My god, i'm watching this now and am only 112 seconds in and can't believe the **** this excrement is coming out with already.
" I'M GOING TO SPEAK NOW , QUESTIONS LATER "
You hard man Gordon hiding behind your weak croniesWhy can't someone strong heckle Brown , someone who can push aside these whimps
You have to be joking. The man has all the charisma of a poisoned toad, unsurprisingly he (the proof is in the pudding after all) has the economic nous of your average socialist (sod all) and precious little conviction one way or another it would seem.
Ok so he's not as flexible as Tony with his political values ...Tony's seemed to change depending on who he was talking to at any given moment, but Brown isn't exactly Michael Foot either.
What little apparent economic success there is, is mostly due to a continuation of former conservative policy it seems to me. History have proven labour to be a more or less unmitigated disaster economically throughout the 20th and now the early 21st century.
The Liberal Democrats would probably be just as bad, if you look at the taxation polices they have, sure they want to give some tax breaks to the lower/average income segment but for the higher earners (of which the Lib dems, much like Labour seem to have a thinly veiled contempt for) up the taxes would go and eventually many would leave for greener pastures, most of these people are the generators of wealth, the providers of jobs (well not in Brown/Blair's Britain with it's massive public sector so much perhaps, but then this is a major part of the whole problem) the people that make the economic cogs spin.
If you tax the hell out of those people who make a lot of money, all that really happens is you **** them off and they go elsewhere ...the money you do relieve them of is pumped back into the massive beast of the British public sector, which Brown seems to think is the end in it's self, rather than a means to an end.
Brown in particular seems to think the government has all the answers to our economic woes, that he can change the outcome with his 'economic tools' ...well John Maynard Keynes approach crashed and burned in the 1970s, so quite what makes people think it can succeed again I don't know. One of my best friends thinks like this, he thinks you can micromanage your way out of an economic crisis, he thinks than it's the governments responsibility to 'create' jobs ...all the while ignoring the natural economic equilibrium which exists. Economies will balance themselves naturally, you can't do it with a hammer and nails like Gordon Brown seems to think that you can. I bet Mrs. Thatcher has some words of wisdom for this arrogant prat.
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" I'M GOING TO SPEAK NOW , QUESTIONS LATER "
what was wrong with brown saying that? i'm no brown supporter but i thought it was decent that he said it.
what was wrong with brown saying that? i'm no brown supporter but i thought it was decent that he said it.
Listen to the way he said it
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Listen to the way he said it
you sure you aren't nit picking a little too much?
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Yeah, Nick handles hecklers really well telling them to "pipe down" all the time
As for the man-handling, notice how the policeman/special branch/bodyguard (ear piece) didn't touch the guy (as he knew he had no legal right) and a vitriolic woman and other Labour members physically ejected him. I would be contacting the police/preparing a civil assault/battery case right now if it was me. Absolutely no need for that.
Thanks for that Moeks. Your quite right in what you say. Sound like the kind of man I would enjoy having a pint with tbh.
I am guessing that was sarcasm, but what I said isn't actually wrong. You have to look at things realistically. Pouring more state funding into Northern Ireland isn't going to help much in the longer run, all it does is offset an economic problem. Far better to try and tackle the problem and make Northern Ireland prosperous, although I think even now the political/religious situation does that few favours ...the ghosts of the past still linger (well you would know far better than me about that I imagine), I suspect it could take a generation of peace to really start to succeed in attracting investment back to NI, but ...there are things that can be done economically try and speed that up I think.
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