Does God cause suffering??

If I were to assume belief of a Christian God as according to the bible, I would have to say yes, owing to the floods and plagues caused directly by God especially in the old testament of the bible.

But for my official stance I will say I do not believe we know enough about what a God really could be to decide A: what, if any, sort of a deity could actually exist or B: whether it would be capable of interfering with human life, other answers are simply assuming too much, and therefore my answer is maybe.
 
i think its wrong to try and brainwash children with this pap in school

:rolleyes: they don't brainwash anyone at school with re, re in school is good. It may reduce the amount or arrogant retards who are totaly against religion.

All they teach at school is what diffrent people think and belife as well as their respective customs.
 
Here's your answer, maybe...

A dog owner owns two dogs. He treats them well for a time, he then kicks them out into the wild lands beyond his house because they peed on the floor.

They soon find that living without their owner is a lot more difficult. They keep getting attacked by other feral dogs, they get sick and ill and there is no one to take them to the vet and fix them up.

And every so often the old owner comes out with his shotgun and kills a few of their children


They are hungry a lot of the time too.


Is it the former owners fault that they're in a bad way?

Fixed that for you.
 
Well if the 'Bible' is to be believed..

godvsatan.png



..then yep :p
 
More seriously than my star wars quote, if you believe in God, then you must believe that he created everything, and is omniscient, so he knowingly created suffering too. All part of the plan. God can't 'decide' to do things, they were already decided in the moment that creation was sparked. That's how I see it anyway, though I don't really believe in God in the traditional sense, if at all tbh.
 
More seriously than my star wars quote, if you believe in God, then you must believe that he created everything.

why must he?


He could have just made earth.

or just made man.

Or made nothing and just ****ed with us when we where a young species :p
 
No idea why they teach RS/RE.
The percentage of people who believe in anything at my school is like 7%...

Plus everyone mucks around. And for a 1h 45minute exam.. yawn!
 
:rolleyes: they don't brainwash anyone at school with re, re in school is good. It may reduce the amount or arrogant retards who are totaly against religion.

All they teach at school is what diffrent people think and belife as well as their respective customs.

As a person who considers themselves non-religious, I actually agree with this. Not because I would like the 'love to be spread', as such, about religion. More that I believe people should be entitled and encouraged to understand as many belief systems commonly held as possible, ideally from a relatively neutral standpoint, so that those people can decide for themselves to which they subscribe. It's no good telling children 'religion is a load of nonsense', as that's just as bad as effectively indoctrinating them as we see in many strictly religious households and schools. All positions should be presented to them. I fear the alternative is raising children to be unthinking in their acceptance of a particular belief system - and much worse, encouraging them to be unthinking in other major decisions they will make throughout their lives, which is terrible.
 
No idea why they teach RS/RE.
The percentage of people who believe in anything at my school is like 7%...

Because almost 80% of world population is religious and it is good rounding and hopefully will stop, the total irrational hatred of religion.
 
Humans are responsible for their own actions. The whole "free will" and "God has a plan" ideas are very hazy - they have little scriptual backing and frankly the latter promotes a lack of responsibility.

But the answer is multi-pronged, it depends on what you believe God to be, or not to be. Whether that God has a direct affect on the world, controlling everyone much like a puppet master, or a more distant God, setting things in motion and watching things unfold or somewhere in between.

Personally? I go with ourselves being the main perpetrators of suffering - to deny responsibility for what we have done, are doing and no doubt will do, is a crime in itself. When it comes to natural disasters, I feel (God or no God) that they are simply that. Natural. Things happen. Build a city on a faultline? Expect Earthquakes. Just as an example.

There are plenty of paths to go down, explore what you believe. Perhaps using other belief systems as a starting point/counter-point. "Buddhists believe that xxxx, unlike Christians who believe that xxxx, I feel, however, that xxxx". That'll give you some historical ground to start from. (assuming you're actually going to write an answer, or something similar appears in your actual exam)

Because almost 80% of world population is religious and it is good rounding and hopefully will stop, the total irrational hatred of religion.

There are plenty of rational reasons to be against religion. To say otherwise is illogical. Both Atheism and Religion are extremist.
 
he drowned thousands of people, he murdered tens/hundreds of thousands of innocent children in Egypt, nuked 2 cities, tortured a man and murdered his family for the hell of it.


then depending on which sect of Christianity you follow he tortures billions of people for all time.

wow, very interesting, don't think they want us to know that!

Just read the Book of Job. That'll answer your question.

Yeh, using that as a quote (as we need them + bible refernces :o), very interesting that God lets him do it!

Well if the 'Bible' is to be believed..

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8241/godvsatan.png

..then yep :p

Now that you put it like that, shouldn't God be Satan and visa vera lol:confused::eek::p
 
Because almost 80% of world population is religious and it is good rounding and hopefully will stop, the total irrational hatred of religion.
80% would have to see some evidence of that. Wouldn't think it would even be over 60% if anything..
 
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