VAT is going up to 20% say government

Quite. I'm quite certain, but at the same time not completely certain, that council tax doesn't entirely go to the council that the property is in, rather it is collected in a big pool at the Treasury and allocated. Perhaps this should change. Though I'm not sure if that would be "fair" due to some areas having a lot more council housing than others?

Errm I'm pretty sure it goes direct to the council.

I'm pretty sure that the government has dramatically cut the amount it used to provide to councils for local services. Council tax has had to go up accordingly.
 
Errm I'm pretty sure it goes direct to the council.

I'm pretty sure that the government has dramatically cut the amount it used to provide to councils for local services. Council tax has had to go up accordingly.
Fair do's if it does. :)

I was under the impression that it went to a big pool and was distributed accordingly by Westminster. Gladly accept that I am wrong though. :)
 
Council tax has almost trebled in some areas under labour in 13 years.

Can anyone say that council services are three times better?

Council tax is far from the only source of local funding, in fact, it's far from the largest. This means that tripling council tax does not triple the amount of money available to a council.
 
Raising VAT just increases the black market as even more people send false declarations through customs and accept cash in hand jobs. My friend in america sends goods to me with all invoices removed to avoid vat and customs charges to ensure a fair price of imported goods.
 
Council tax is far from the only source of local funding, in fact, it's far from the largest. This means that tripling council tax does not triple the amount of money available to a council.

In their previous guise, the tories imposed council tax caps to stop it going up. Obviously labour and liberal councils had much tighter controls than tory ones.
 
Wouldn't that be the responsibility of one of the river authorities :confused:

Much more relevant would be councils (not always Labour) allowing people to pave over their front garden.


No.

Its a mixture of land owner, county council (when its next to roads and pavements) and river authorities when it comes to cleaning.
The councils around here stopped clearing out road side watercourses and dykes about ten years ago, leaving them full of crap.

Local authorities are responsible for flood management in their areas.
 
Council tax is far from the only source of local funding, in fact, it's far from the largest. This means that tripling council tax does not triple the amount of money available to a council.

Council tax is the second largest income for our county council at 22%
Charges are 10%
The remaining is made up from Government and other grants.


South Kesteven district where I live, has a population of roughly of 132,000 people, yet the district councils council tax take for this year is £65,367,720 + government and county grants.

Its net expenditure was around 85 million pounds, 50.5 million pounds of which was for subsidized housing.
Central services to the public 8.6 million.
Roads, here is a right laugh, 1.9 million.
Corporate & Democratic Core (what ever that is) £2.5 million.
Cultural, environment and planning a whopping 17.2 million.
 
How much would our gold be worth today?


The amount he sold?

as of 2008, adjusted for the investments he made with the cash gained from sales, he had lost the UK economy £9 billion pounds.
He sold 395 tonnes, here is one theory why:
http://www.goldnewswire.net/did-gor...res-on-how-the-ny-fed-manipulates-gold-prices

At todays prices, about £10.8 billion pounds worth of loss to the exchequer or in simple terms it cost twice as much as black Wednesday, pretty much the lowest point in the Tory parties previous term in office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Once the true facts of his time in government are exposed I have no doubt he will go down in history as the worst chancellor and prime minister in this countries history.
 
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The amount he sold?

as of 2008, adjusted for the investments he made with the cash gained from sales, he had lost the UK economy £9 billion pounds.
He sold 395 tonnes, here is one theory why:
http://www.goldnewswire.net/did-gor...res-on-how-the-ny-fed-manipulates-gold-prices

At todays prices, about £10.8 billion pounds worth of loss to the exchequer or in simple terms it cost twice as much as black Wednesday, pretty much the lowest point in the Tory parties previous term in office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Once the true facts of his time in government are exposed I have no doubt he will go down in history as the worst chancellor and prime minister in this countries history.

How much would our gold be worth today?
Actually, because he used a lot of the proceeds to buy Euros, we're now even more in the red given that the Euro has tanked.
 
Council tax is the second largest income for our county council at 22%
Charges are 10%
The remaining is made up from Government and other grants.


South Kesteven district where I live, has a population of roughly of 132,000 people, yet the district councils council tax take for this year is £65,367,720 + government and county grants.

Its net expenditure was around 85 million pounds, 50.5 million pounds of which was for subsidized housing.
Central services to the public 8.6 million.
Roads, here is a right laugh, 1.9 million.
Corporate & Democratic Core (what ever that is) £2.5 million.
Cultural, environment and planning a whopping 17.2 million.

How does that work? You said council tax receipts were 22% at 65m. Yet only spent 85m. Where did the rest of the money go. Also I thought nearly all of subsidised housing was paid for by central government through the grants you mentioned. Without that, councils in poor areas would be screwed.
 
The amount he sold?

as of 2008, adjusted for the investments he made with the cash gained from sales, he had lost the UK economy £9 billion pounds.
He sold 395 tonnes, here is one theory why:
http://www.goldnewswire.net/did-gor...res-on-how-the-ny-fed-manipulates-gold-prices

At todays prices, about £10.8 billion pounds worth of loss to the exchequer or in simple terms it cost twice as much as black Wednesday, pretty much the lowest point in the Tory parties previous term in office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Once the true facts of his time in government are exposed I have no doubt he will go down in history as the worst chancellor and prime minister in this countries history.

So not that big of a figure compared to our debt? Hardly a deal breaker, Jonnybmac.
 
I was obviously referring to the UK utility bills...

Do you not understand the importance of import tax and duty though?

On top of that, the worst part of importing anything is the Royal Mail handling fee of £8 or whatever it is- that charge almost always matches or exceeds the cost of duty and tax for me and is nothing to do with HMRC.
 
Fair is, tax income once not twice. Double taxes can be rightfully evaded as far as I am concerned, especially taxes on essentials like gas and electric.
So you willfully evade taxes. Are you prepared to relinquish your right to public services? I bet not.
 
I don't mind a raise in VAT or even income tax/national insurance as I would rather the government come out and be honest (for a change).

Yes the country is in a financial mess due to Labour and sadly it's the public that has to pay for it. It seems the new government wants to get a grip of the debt which is a very positive thing.
 
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