LOST..... How do you think it will end

d3moliti0n said:
the most accepted theory is that in the alt/purgatory/perfect world the island was under water because thats how the Losties would have imagined it. Yet in one of the alt/purgatory scenes, Ben and his father talk about how they were on the island...

Plot hole much?
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That's a good point. I guess it could be explanied by Ben and his dad having their own "memory flash" moment, without needing prompting by Desmond, but then that doesn't explain why Ben doesn't recognise Desmond or Locke in the alt world in the scenes we see them together. If he'd got his memories back he would know who they are, and presumably know it was purgatory.

I also think the whole "Let's be nice to Ben" thing is ridiculous myself. The guy systematically wiped out nearly everyone he came across and was an utter **** most of the time, but all it needs is a smaltzy "I'm sorry John", and everything is hunky dory.
 
Once I realized half the point of the show is the mystery and theorizing I enjoyed a whole lot more. The finale was incredible, I cried for gods sake. I can't even remember the last time I cried because of film/tv whatever. Maybe I'm just a raging homo, but the last 20 mins or so were absolutely beautiful.
 
jonislost said:
Ditto! Some of the things people are saying are making me wonder if they watched ANY episode! :p
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Or perhaps, they just expected more.

Not providing any real content, and giving half-answers to everything - doesn't hold well with some people.

Sure it means that the final scenario does 'fit' pretty nicely and give a nice emotional ending for the characters.

But it makes for an extremely weak conclusion imo.

It effectively turned the first 4-5 seasons into just 'character/relationship' building, just so we could have the 'big' twist of them all meeting up if 'purgatory' to remember what they'd been through and then move on together.
 
Eliot said:
I think the problem is people haven't understood parts of the program thus at and refuse to admit they have no idea what's going on and so thy are like about 50% up to speed with the show before watching the finale
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What about the people who were massive Lost fans, who have seen every episode at least twice, have had countless discussions with mates about the mysteries of the island trying to work out what was happening, and still thought the ending of a massive let down?

And before you say that I don't understand the ending, I understand just fine, its actually a pretty simple ending. I'd even go as far as saying too simple an ending for a series that has been filled with so much mystery.

I think the problem is that people think they are Lost fans, but have only been scratching the surface all this time, not really thinking about the show, and have therefore forgotten or don't care about all the stuff from series 1 to 4?!

If the show was always going to be about the characters and this ending, then why bother including all the other stuff? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
 
whitecrook said:
Didn't rate it at all. Poor showing. Essentially, the culmination of the programme was 'it was all just a dream'
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Seriously? That's how you understood it?

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MonkieMann said:
If the show was always going to be about the characters and this ending, then why bother including all the other stuff? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Because the 'other stuff' is what helped the characters let go of their personal demons, issues & flaws. i.e. "The island needs you just as much as you need it"
 
MonkieMann said:
What about the people who were massive Lost fans, who have seen every episode at least twice, have had countless discussions with mates about the mysteries of the island trying to work out what was happening, and still thought the ending of a massive let down?

And before you say that I don't understand the ending, I understand just fine, its actually a pretty simple ending. I'd even go as far as saying too simple an ending for a series that has been filled with so much mystery.

I think the problem is that people think they are Lost fans, but have only been scratching the surface all this time, not really thinking about the show, and have therefore forgotten or don't care about all the stuff from series 1 to 4?!

If the show was always going to be about the characters and this ending, then why bother including all the other stuff? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
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This, the ending was very simple, I can't believe that anyone's who's seen the at least the whole of this season wouldn't understand it.
I also have seen every episode of every season and was really disappointed with the ending, I started out watching a mystery sci-fi show and ended up watching a lame soap.
And for anyone who thinks you can't have good characterisation, a good story, some mystery and give answers at the end I can only assume you didn't watch BSG, that managed to do the lot, answering almost all the salient plot questions.
 
Frapple said:
Because the 'other stuff' is what helped the characters let go of their personal demons, issues & flaws. i.e. "The island needs you just as much as you need it"
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seriously, if this is the best answer anyone can come up with, then I'll just forget series 2, 3 & 4 and enjoy series 1, 5 & 6 - which I feel actually work well together.
 
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Garee said:
Can anyone explain exactly how Jacobs brother turned into the smoke monster?

In that particular episode we see Jacob knock his brother out and he then flows downstream into the light. Wouldn't he just lye unconcious at the bottom of the area with the 'cork'? It makes no sense to me.
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Can someone please enlighten me !

Also, here is an interesting read from one of the writers.

http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3061994
 
Garee said:
Can anyone explain exactly how Jacobs brother turned into the smoke monster?

In that particular episode we see Jacob knock his brother out and he then flows downstream into the light. Wouldn't he just lye unconcious at the bottom of the area with the 'cork'? It makes no sense to me.
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My understanding of it is that the Smoke Monster is not Jacob's brother, as Jacob buried his brother and mother in a previous episode. Just like the Monster took over Locke's 'image', it did the same with Jacob's brother when he was first dumped into the light. So maybe more of a facsimilie with Jacob's brother's attributes.
 
Random Guy said:
My understanding of it is that the Smoke Monster is not Jacob's brother, as Jacob buried his brother and mother in a previous episode. Just like the Monster took over Locke's 'image', it did the same with Jacob's brother when he was first dumped into the light. So maybe more of a facsimilie with Jacob's brother's attributes.
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But Flocke did say, "He stole my body", leading us to believe it is Jacobs brother...

EDIT, and he also said, "Because it reminds me I was human once" when Ben asks why he bothers to walk when he could just 'fly' around instead
 
Random Guy said:
My understanding of it is that the Smoke Monster is not Jacob's brother, as Jacob buried his brother and mother in a previous episode. Just like the Monster took over Locke's 'image', it did the same with Jacob's brother when he was first dumped into the light. So maybe more of a facsimilie with Jacob's brother's attributes.
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Spot on, and very simple, not sure why the question needed to be asked in the first place :s
 
sorry to take this OT for a min.

Ive never watched Lost, but my Mrs is a big fan and was telling me about the series finale.

It sounded very familiar to me and im pretty sure i saw an old movie, where after a plane crash the survivors tried to leave the crash site, but couldnt as they were trapped in purgatory.

doesanyone remember this and could tell me the name of the movie?

thanks
 
jonislost said:
Spot on, and very simple, not sure why the question needed to be asked in the first place :s
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because nobody knows where the smoke monster came from thanks to the laughable storyline.

Ashes to Ashes done the death storyline perfectly by not over complicating it. I have a feeling that the writers changed their mind twice or three times of what the story was actually about
 
MonkieMann said:
^ See my points above, any ideas?

Also, I assumed that Jacob couldn't kill MiB because he was in some shape or form his brother, even if it was only in part, no?
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I don't think the 'form' of the MIB is relevant to whether or not Jacob could kill him, its just the rule that the good cannot defeat the evil (MIB + Jacob). So when these two roles were removed temporarily (the uncorking) Jack and Flocke were mortal again. In essence the MIB exposed himself (he didn't realise this at the time) and it led to his demise, if the good was Jacob and MIB at that moment, then I assume they could have killed each other it just never came to that.
 
bam0 said:
And for anyone who thinks you can't have good characterisation, a good story, some mystery and give answers at the end I can only assume you didn't watch BSG, that managed to do the lot, answering almost all the salient plot questions.
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LIES We still don't know who, What or if the 7th Cylon Model had any significance
 
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