Well I wouldn't go that far.
I'd say I wasted an hour a week for the last several years.
LOST..... How do you think it will end
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Well I wouldn't go that far.
I'd say I wasted an hour a week for the last several years.
I've also watched it tonight and felt disapointed. With the whole flash-sideways story line as purgatory it felt to add nothing to the overall story. At least if it was a different timeline created by the nuke then it'd show how much better some of the charcters lives could have been if Jacob/the island hadn't interferred with their lives.
I also seem to be the only person who doesn't see Jacob as a good guy. For example he murdered his own brother, directly killed people on Richards ship, and had his followers kill all the Dharma people. He also seemed to demand blind obedience and imposed limits on what people could do.
Mib on the other hand at least occasionally helped people and only actually killed Jacobs followers, if you discount the pilot in the 1st seaon and the French expedition.
You aren't the only person who thinks that way. Someone earlier in this thread stated that Jacob represents God (good), while MiB represents Evil. I disagree.
Jacob is neutral, just like most humans and most definitely does not represent good.
I'd go further than saying he's just not good. Apart from the killing, the amount of control he seems to exert and the way he interferes with characters lives (a good example is giving James the pen to write his letter) makes him actively evil.
Ben ordered all the Dharma people to be killed. Ben demanded blind obedience. Ben imposed limits. None of this was Jacob's idea. Also, Jacob didn't mean to kill his brother, and he didn't *directly* kill the people on the ship.
Yep, a lot of questions listed in that video haven't been answered.
Btw.. I'm not a spelling nazi or anything but a LOT of people have misspelled "sense" in this thread and it tickles me
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Me and my daughter couldn't wait until the next episode and we had to time our diaries right so we could watch together.
So yes it does seem as though we've wasted several years of waiting fo rthe next episode of a programme only to be let down.
Jacob is a classic representation of God. In most stories involving God and The Devil using Humans as a playground (right now i can think of Dogma, In Nomine, even Constantine), God will never intervene. His belief is that he has instilled "good nature" into all humans, and so eventually all humans will turn to their fellow man and help each other from a hard situation. God's "method" of winning his bet with The Devil is to have faith in people, and their faith in God. Ironic right? The Devil believes otherwise: that people are morally ambiguous, corruptible and greedy. Diabolic Intervention is generally where the devil intervenes directly into swaying humans off their course of righteousness, upsetting the playing field into forcing humans to do evil things.
This is almost completely mirrored in Lost with Jacob and Bert (i hate calling him MiB). Jacob never directly intervenes with the candidates, but instead gives them ambiguous advice in the form of riddles they have to discover for themselves. Bert just kills them. Or inhabits one and convinces them to do things he wants.
Having watch Lost, i dont think Jacob is God, and Bert is Lucifer. But to deny that Jacob is a God complex, and Bert likewise with the Devil is silly. They are almost certainly representations.
He says he brought them there and there seemed to be people dead inside the ship after it had crashed. MiB then killed most of the survivors.
Watched the finale last night, loved it.
Gave an ending to the story, didn't answer all the questions but that didn't really bother me.
Think it only bothers a lot of people as we are used to being spoonfed every detail of a story with nothing being held back, which this show didn't do.
Finale gave closure to events on the island and the lives of the characters, worked for me.
Gave an ending to the story, didn't answer all the questions but that didn't really bother me.
Think it only bothers a lot of people as we are used to being spoonfed every detail of a story with nothing being held back, which this show didn't do.
Finale gave closure to events on the island and the lives of the characters, worked for me.
Don't think it does. LAX part 1? Beginning of series 6?
That's a direct follow on from the season 5 finale where they try to detonate the bomb.... unless its further in than the first 4-5minutes that you're talking about.
but he didnt.
did you not listen when ben said "i always thought i was summoning the monster but he was really summoning me"
it wasnt jacob ben had been visiting in the shack it was the smoke monster, ben never met jacob until he killed him.
however jacob did stand by and do nothing to stop a lot of the smoke monsters activities which doesnt make sense if he was suposed to be protecting the island from him this part of the story obviously wasnt planned they added mysteries without ever thinking they would need to explain them.
they even had the egyptian god stuff inside the temple like the smoke monster was RA and the huge statue.
ive always though it would have been more believable if "mother" didnt kill the villagers jacobs brother was living with they could have gone on to be the ones to build the temple and statue but obviously that episode about jacob and his brother was rushed and written almost as if they had less than a day to come up with some story
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nah the bomb is nothing to do with the afterlife / sideways timeline
its jack on 815 in the afterlife (maybe straight after he died)
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John wasn't really John anymore, he died and the Man in Black (Jacob's Brother and smoke monster) assumed his form.
They never really explained why the Island moved, they came up with some crap that because there was water and they rammed a wheel into the wall stuff would happen but there was no satisfactory answer to that one.
Jacob was some form of demi-god so was ageless, he also made the rules on the Island so allowed Richard to be ageless as well. Smokey was ageless because he was Smokey.
All the magnetic crap was due to the light within the Island.
One thing I don't understand in Lost are the choices some people make, or fail to make. For example, Jack in the Last episode after putting the 'plug' back in the light source thing. He just got on the floor and stayed there after. Surely anyone else would have gone back to Hurley and Ben?
They also fail at asking relevant questions to the people they meet. I know for a fact I'd be asking bloody lots of questions to everyone I'd met on that island, but they never seemed to at all.
Edit: Another question I've just thought of. Why did MiB use Christian's appearance to lead Jack to the caves for water, when he wanted all of the candidates dead anyway? He had so many opportunities to kill every one of them to limit the chances of a new protector once Jacob dies, yet he never really bothered.
They also fail at asking relevant questions to the people they meet. I know for a fact I'd be asking bloody lots of questions to everyone I'd met on that island, but they never seemed to at all.
Edit: Another question I've just thought of. Why did MiB use Christian's appearance to lead Jack to the caves for water, when he wanted all of the candidates dead anyway? He had so many opportunities to kill every one of them to limit the chances of a new protector once Jacob dies, yet he never really bothered.
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With regards to Jack getting back up he had been stabbed in the stomach at this point and was losing a lot of blood, maybe he just didn't have the strength. Don't know how he managed to appear outside though in order to die in the bamboo field.
If MiB had killed them all at the beginning then there would have been no show
If MiB had killed them all at the beginning then there would have been no show
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Probably would have been for the best TBH.If MiB had killed them all at the beginning then there would have been no show
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Thinking about it, Lost was given one of the most 'stock' endings they could have come up with. It was pretty dire really. Yes, we got a definitive ending, yes it wrapped everything up, but it was pretty dull on the whole. It's like they spent four or five seasons thinking up all of the mysteries and questions and then when it got to the end they went and had a look in the 'Big Book of Hollywood/American Endings' and just randomly opened the page and pointed at something and thats what we ended up with.
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The big question for me is how did Christian appear both on the boat and to Jack in the hospital if he was infact MIB all along! Also when Christian was in the cabin who was his friend whos eye looked through the peep hole at Locke!?