It's not £25, that's an UPGRADE not a full version.
Snow Leopard = $169.99
Windows 7 Home Premium = $199.99
Taken from the official Apple site and Microsoft site so there isn't much difference at all
Apple is now bigger than Microsoft
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It's not £25, that's an UPGRADE not a full version.
Snow Leopard = $169.99
Windows 7 Home Premium = $199.99
Taken from the official Apple site and Microsoft site so there isn't much difference at all
It started hotting up yesterday morning, once started it won’t stop.
Just wait until someone says they bought an iPad this morning.
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Yes, but I still had to shed out 2x£172 for W7 Pro from XP compared to the
£40 I shed out to upgrade my MBP, my Brothers MBP and my Mac Pro.
£344 - 40 = £304 difference?
Real world costs there.
Edit and actually, the upgrade from Tiger (which only the very very earliest of Intel Macs shipped with) is £132 which includes iLife and iWork.
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MC581Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
Home Premium + Office is more than that.
So yes actually on the cost side of things OS X wins TBQH.
Didn't say there wasn't.
Was pointing out your gross misinformation that Mac OSX is much cheaper than Windows when fact is it is not for full versions.
I work as a digital retoucher, so i spend all my day on a mac.
But as a gamer my computer at home is a pc. The mac is miles ahead as an operating system but as a personal computer i find it lacking. I cant stand photoshop on the pc as its terrible and ugly as hell. Anyone who has worked on both knows exactly what i mean.
But as a gamer my computer at home is a pc. The mac is miles ahead as an operating system but as a personal computer i find it lacking. I cant stand photoshop on the pc as its terrible and ugly as hell. Anyone who has worked on both knows exactly what i mean.
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Adobe granted licences to Apple and Open office (Open Source) but refused to licence it to Microsoft. They actually started a lawsuit against them when they intended to include it in Vista.
Nice of them eh?
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Well, technically, it is a full version as it doesn't check that OS X has been previously installed. (Well it didn't here anyway!)
The full version to upgrade from Tiger is £132 and includes other software.
Interesting, didn't know that. Any information on that?
With the exception of logging on to a domain it's exactly the same
Well I know its not from trying to setup sharing and my HP 4650DN yesterday after reinstalling OS X and Windows on a SSD and a 500G respectively
OS X = <1 mins and MBP + MP could talk to each other
W7 = Eventually got there but MBP still doesn't want to talk to the 4650DN. CBA to find out why.
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Well the tables turned for Adobe didn't they because Apple fell out with Adobe re: The Flash vs HTML 5 h.264 debate.
Flash + Google's VP8 is now even more in favour of Microsoft and other OEMs since Mozilla and Opera have confirmed their full support too now along with Intel hinting at hardware acceleration plans for the royatly free video technology while Apple still proclaim the licensed h.264 in HTML5 as the best.
Flash + Google's VP8 is now even more in favour of Microsoft and other OEMs since Mozilla and Opera have confirmed their full support too now along with Intel hinting at hardware acceleration plans for the royatly free video technology while Apple still proclaim the licensed h.264 in HTML5 as the best.
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I love Apple products, but can't justify forking out for one - and I have a laptop and a desktop which work perfectly fine for what I need.
Secondly, I'm used to how PCs work, but I'm less and less bothered about tweaking and changing settings - I don't care to or want to change settings and have full control over my PC. I just don't care - I want to be able to use it to work on and browse the net.
I think if I immersed myself in the Apple OS I'd get used to it quickly, I know you can get 2 or multi button mice for them which would solve a lot of frustration.
Apple products are pretty good else millions of people wouldn't buy them. They are expensive, but like most things, the moer they start to be used and become common place the more likely the prices will start to come down. Do I think the difference is worth it? Honestly, I don't know as I haven't used enough Apple products (bar my iphone and ancient old ipod) to be able to comment. However, the apples I have used, have always just done exactly what I wanted to do without any fuss. I think I'm a bit nervous about taking the plunge owing to lack of familiarity.
MS are fine too, they've been around a long time as well and they've tailored their systems to what was asked of them, however they're going down the sensible route of making the OS more intuitive and less necessary to have a phd in astrophysics to operate it or change a settings. I used to love DOS and setting up all the batch files and system files and so on, tweaking windows to get the best performance out of it. I just dont' care now. I don't want to do it. That's what makes the newer versions of windows and Apple so nice to use, you can just do something and it just "works". Bliss for me.
I don't get the vitriolic and aggressive behaviour towards either company - it's really rather laughable. Together they fulfill the needs of everyone that uses them, therefore they're doing a good job. People who turn their noses up at different things are short sighted and ignorant. People that object to apple or MS on principle (what principle?!!) are quite plainly mad.
Secondly, I'm used to how PCs work, but I'm less and less bothered about tweaking and changing settings - I don't care to or want to change settings and have full control over my PC. I just don't care - I want to be able to use it to work on and browse the net.
I think if I immersed myself in the Apple OS I'd get used to it quickly, I know you can get 2 or multi button mice for them which would solve a lot of frustration.
Apple products are pretty good else millions of people wouldn't buy them. They are expensive, but like most things, the moer they start to be used and become common place the more likely the prices will start to come down. Do I think the difference is worth it? Honestly, I don't know as I haven't used enough Apple products (bar my iphone and ancient old ipod) to be able to comment. However, the apples I have used, have always just done exactly what I wanted to do without any fuss. I think I'm a bit nervous about taking the plunge owing to lack of familiarity.
MS are fine too, they've been around a long time as well and they've tailored their systems to what was asked of them, however they're going down the sensible route of making the OS more intuitive and less necessary to have a phd in astrophysics to operate it or change a settings. I used to love DOS and setting up all the batch files and system files and so on, tweaking windows to get the best performance out of it. I just dont' care now. I don't want to do it. That's what makes the newer versions of windows and Apple so nice to use, you can just do something and it just "works". Bliss for me.
I don't get the vitriolic and aggressive behaviour towards either company - it's really rather laughable. Together they fulfill the needs of everyone that uses them, therefore they're doing a good job. People who turn their noses up at different things are short sighted and ignorant. People that object to apple or MS on principle (what principle?!!) are quite plainly mad.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16638993&postcount=4848
I'll be sure to pass that post onto my mate. I'm sure he'll be impressed at the benchmark figures you've obtained from customising your Desire
It's not my Desire (sadly
), it's the new Android that is being developed for it, but yes, your mate will be interested most likely That's fair enough, but it doesn't change the fact that the browser is sub par.
I made no such remark. If you truly think that labelling the iPhone as something a bit special is the funniest thing you've ever heard, then you really are a sad git lol
I know you didn't say that directly, but your sentiments are that of an iPhone fanboy
Don't get me wrong, I think that the iPhone is the best phone for the masses, still.
Android needs some further adjustment and simplification before you will see masses of people with it, although it is doing better as a platform on the whole at the moment.
However, the way in which Froyo operates is quite groundbreaking with regards to it's sheer speed, so I think it will draw a lot more interest and raise possibilites in future, you should certainly look out for it when comparing with the iPhone 4G!
Anyway, I appreciate you are entitled to your opinion, as I am mine, we should leave it at that so to not derail the thread much more
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It's well documented, just have a read about.
Oh no. Vertical carrier with two white plastic arms supporting the pull down bypass tray?
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And yes, I suppose it does, why?
They break all the poxy time. I hate the damn thing. 3 toners exploded so far inside it. Right arm snapped off 4 times!!. Not to mention the click of death.
It starts slowly, one morning. Your running off some emails that need to be "recorded" before anyone gets in. Then there's a click. It's fine at first. But it gets worse, much worse.
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Ah.
Mine doesn't get used that much to be honest, although the magenta toner isn't lining the colour up properly so a magenta shadow forms around text making it look fussy.
HP toner too :/
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OSX is little more than a customised gui on top of BSD in the same sense that Gnome is on top of the linux kernel, you could argue how OSX cost so much compared to the likes of Ubuntu?
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OSX runs on a Unix platform not Lniux. Apple using an open source base for their OS?
Heh as if
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OSX runs on a Unix platform not Lniux. Apple using an open source base for their OS?
Heh as if
BSD is Unix
Linux is the open source alternative to unix in the sense that its pretty much the same thing and simple there as a comparison, i could have said Gnome on top of FreeBSD if that makes more sense
, but the point is, most of the development costs are taken away by them using BSD as the base for OSX. So its far easier for them to offer it at a lower price.Linux offers the same but for free, so comparing the costs of OSX to the cost of Windows is pretty much a mute point as there both very much undermined by the vast aray of free Linux/Unix Distro's
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Until they buy the newer iphone with minor changes and the cycle starts again, have you actually seen the app store? it's shocking the crap people spend money on and how many.
Most of the content on there should be free.
